Playing the race card.

ResearchMonkey

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"Those racist jack-booted republicans are just a bunch of freaked out old white men that can't see past color." AKA: the man.

But some people have seen the truth about being a 'pubby'.

Colin Powell, Condi Rice - the highest offices ever held by people of color; and its under a Republican. ( . . . that is if you don't count the first black president. )

ATLANTA - Herman Cain is a well-to-do black businessman with a strong belief that the Democratic Party that blacks embraced during the civil rights struggle has swung too far to the left.

That is why he is running for the U.S. Senate this year as a Republican.

More black Republicans are running for office in Georgia this year than ever before, and black candidates in other Southern states are also finding that declaring for the GOP is more accepted than it was just a few years ago. . .

. . . What is driving some blacks to abandon the party most closely associated with civil rights to join the more conservative party?

One reason given is the improving economics of black households.


Source

Accepted by whom? --is my question.

Too many good things to list.
 
Can we start by fixing this little load of :bs:

the party most closely associated with civil rights...

The Republican party is the one that got civil rights on the books. Ask Al Gores dad.
 
ResearchMonkey said:
"Those racist jack-booted republicans are just a bunch of freaked out old white men that can't see past color." AKA: the man.

But some people have seen the truth about being a 'pubby'.

Colin Powell, Condi Rice - the highest offices ever held by people of color; and its under a Republican. ( . . . that is if you don't count the first black president. )



Accepted by whom? --is my question.

Too many good things to list.

Accepted by both the black and white people of the South. For quite a long time, Democrats used minorities in the 60's, 70's, and 80's, to bolster their ranks...but only when the election was deemed 'close' or important. Right after the voting was done, blacks felt pushed aside, but, at least, they were asked to help. Not so with the Republicans of the same time period.
 
Are these past few posts one of those periodic occurances of conservatives trying to show that republicans are the better party for minorities then democrats are? Im always amused by that. Democrats take minorities for granted true. But only because republicans write them off from the start. Lets not kid ourselves.
 
The (R) party says get a job, help yourself & we'll assist by getting government out of your pocketbook.

The (D) party says you can't do it, let us help.

Who's better?
 
Thulsa Doom said:
Are these past few posts one of those periodic occurances of conservatives trying to show that republicans are the better party for minorities then democrats are? Im always amused by that. Democrats take minorities for granted true. But only because republicans write them off from the start. Lets not kid ourselves.

Nope. It just stated the facts. Your interpretation is your own. ;)
 
Successful people now there’s a minority!

Thulsa Doom said:
Are these past few posts one of those periodic occurrences of conservatives trying to show that republicans are the better party for minorities then democrats are? I’m always amused by that. Democrats take minorities for granted true. But only because republicans write them off from the start. Lets not kid ourselves.

Now THAT is a racist sentiment!!!

What about minorities that are racists?

How does that serve THEIR best interests?

Oh and can someone please tell me what constitutes a minority
these days. A Negro man who is a doctor married to a Negro woman
who is CPA making six figures in a fortune five hundred corporation, they have two
kids in Ivy league colleges who are there on their own merits and not affirmative
action? Those people certainly are what anyone would consider ‘minorities’
(not on just skin color alone) and
they vote REPUBLICAN!!!
 
Im so amused. Now you seem to be making the argument that the republican party is the party of the rich be they rich "negros" or rich fat cat business types of all stripes. It is to their benefit to vote for (and buy) republicans because republicans generally have more hands off policy regarding things like tax breaks and environmental standards and corporate welfare and such. Whereas (I am lead to conclude through this argument) democrats represent the less empowered? Thanks for that logic there. I happen to think democrats have lots of issues of their own. But to call me racist because you feel the best you can do to help the non-rich and the non-well established is to "get government out of their way" is a joke. Welcome to reality people. Republicans certainly DO write off certain segments of the population. You can site all the Clarence Thomas's you like but we both know thats not the norm. If the republican party was such a wonderful party for the minority citizen then why is it that the voting discrepency is so massive? Shouldnt they be seeing the light and giving all their votes to republicans if its to their benefit to have school lunches cut and money for text books slashed while congress is allowing big businesses to use loop holes like off shore tax shelters? Why havent they seen the light then? The fact of the matter is the republicans know their constituency and the democrats know theirs. And the republican's constituency does not include a whole lot of "negros". At least not enough to make it worth their while to promote any more then token words of inclusion. anything else and they piss off their much larger right wing element and their religious fundamental element. so lets not pretend otherwise here.
 
Thulsa Doom said:
Im so amused. Now you seem to be making the argument that the republican party is the party of the rich be they rich "negros" or rich fat cat business types of all stripes. It is to their benefit to vote for (and buy) republicans because republicans generally have more hands off policy regarding things like tax breaks and environmental standards and corporate welfare and such. Whereas (I am lead to conclude through this argument) democrats represent the less empowered? Thanks for that logic there. I happen to think democrats have lots of issues of their own. But to call me racist because you feel the best you can do to help the non-rich and the non-well established is to "get government out of their way" is a joke. Welcome to reality people. Republicans certainly DO write off certain segments of the population. You can site all the Clarence Thomas's you like but we both know thats not the norm. If the republican party was such a wonderful party for the minority citizen then why is it that the voting discrepency is so massive? Shouldnt they be seeing the light and giving all their votes to republicans if its to their benefit to have school lunches cut and money for text books slashed while congress is allowing big businesses to use loop holes like off shore tax shelters? Why havent they seen the light then? The fact of the matter is the republicans know their constituency and the democrats know theirs. And the republican's constituency does not include a whole lot of "negros". At least not enough to make it worth their while to promote any more then token words of inclusion. anything else and they piss off their much larger right wing element and their religious fundamental element. so lets not pretend otherwise here.

Oh man, where to start where to start.

How about, why did you seperate rich negroes from other rich & why did you enclose negroes? Are they somehow different?

Democrats do not represent the less empowered. Republicans do not represent the rich. Neither represent anything more than their agendized power brokers with free flowing cash.

The (D) party purports itself to represent the "little guy". They tell the elderly that the (R)'s plan on destroying social security, infering the oldsters will take a ride on the carriage to hell right along with it. They tell the inner city children & their self-made victim parents that the mean old fat cats (the mean old white fat cats) plan on stopping payment on their food stamps & $5 a month housing. That the mean old rich white fat cats will end school provided breakfasts & lunches (sometimers the only meals these kids get :weep: What a tragedy! What a downright shame!! All the while providing for their own & taking care of themselves. Start in block A, section 1...it's not the job of the federal government to provide meals for anybody in a state program. The secret is right in front of them. So bold & italicized it can't be missed but it's missed time after time after time.

Which takes us to the (R) party. They purport to care for nobody. They assume you can take care of your own. They know that with government not taking 20, 30, 40, 50 per cent of your earnings (meager as they may be) you can care for yours. That is the secret. Take care of yours & I'll care for mine. The cat, never in the sack to begin with, is now out of the bag. A simple plan of the rich. They knew on their way to getting rich & they know it while staying rich. Wanna know what the simple plan is? Good, I'll tell you. Don't give your money away. If you must part with it, part with as little as possible. Once you've parted with it get as much back as possible. And for gods sake, never, ever, ever, let the government take one cent more than is absolutely necessary. They give it to people who don't kwow how to follow this rule & they waste it. They also tend to quit trying to get their own once it's become a freebie program.

So, in short, the (D) wants to buy a vote by giving away other people hard earned money. The (R) party wants to buy your vote by allowing you to keep what is yours in the first place. Nope, nothing extra there Ain't that a pisser.

Why is the voting discrepancy so massive. That is an outstanding question. As time moves forward & the voting block for the (D) hasn't changed much, that question should be asked loudly & often. After 50 years of democrat promises, why is the black child still in under performing schools. Why is the poor white child unable to read? Why are the hispanic children dropping out of school in such high numbers?

WHY HAVEN'T THE PROBLEMS BEEN FIXED MR KENNEDY?
MR KERRY?
MRS FEINSTEIN?
MR DASCHLE?
WHY?
WHY?
WHY?


Yes TD, those are excellent questions.

The answer is coming to many negroes TD (as well as other ethnic minorities). Slowly the answers are being made clear. And because of this, the man or the woman with an (R) is getting more & more of the vote from the people asking the questions.

I like that.
 
Reparations

So Republican party is the party of the Winners, the successful regardless of Race! OK I'll go with that.

The Democrat party is the party of the Leeches and losers and Blacks. Common knowledge I supppose.

Well then the Republicans will do fine because America is a nation of Winners!
If nearly all the negroes vote for the DemoRats Fine!
They are the smallest Minority Ooops no wait them Asians that are the victims of government sponsored discrimination in the colleges are a much small "minority'. Hah Hee Hee
I was amazed when looking at the nationwide SAT scores
broken down by race, outrageous. Them yella folks spank everyone in Maths.
Too Fricken funny.
 
Wait til Whites are a minority

Shouldn’t they be seeing the light and giving all their votes to republicans if its to their benefit to have school lunches cut

"Yeah they can't be bothered feeding their own Kids? My Kid is starving and it’s solely
the fault of the evil Republicans. "


and money for text books slashed

"Crap my Kids school books cost $400.00 fuckin' dollars a semester in High School Fuck me I'm voting DemoRat in November fo sho, no wait I never let my kid set foot in public school guess that doesn't work for me, Oops there goes another vote for GWB!”


while congress is allowing big businesses to use loop holes like off shore tax shelters?

" Oh Hell ya I'm a total loser so if someone else makes a profit and the government taxes it away and promises the proceeds to me they have my vote as opposed to If I succeed the 'publicans will let me keep more of my own money. Dang a prudy good set-up to foster inter-class animosity.”
 
Re: Wait til Whites are a minority

Where is teh federal government for me? for ME?!?! Indiana makes all parents pay school book rental fee's, K-12. I want mine!!!
 
It ain't the color of yo skin

That's right them evil offshore corporations should be
paying for our Kids school books that makes sense to me.

Those evil rich folks have been enjoying
the fruits of their labors far to long!
 
Gonz said:
How about, why did you seperate rich negroes from other rich & why did you enclose negroes? Are they somehow different?

answer: because winky brought up the distinction so I figured I would follow the silly red herring and loaded use of language. and youll notice I said "of all stripes" so Im not sure what you are talking about when you say why did I seperate them.

Democrats do not represent the less empowered. Republicans do not represent the rich. Neither represent anything more than their agendized power brokers with free flowing cash.

tell it to winky. I was just following the logic of his argument that only rich blacks seem to vote republican. I believe that last sentence you just said pretty much agrees with what I said when I said “The fact of the matter is the republicans know their constituency and the democrats know theirs.” Why the conniption fit here?

Which takes us to the (R) party. They purport to care for nobody. They assume you can take care of your own. They know that with government not taking 20, 30, 40, 50 per cent of your earnings (meager as they may be) you can care for yours. That is the secret. Take care of yours & I'll care for mine.

Hmmm so let me see if I have this straight. Republicans are out for the little guy by keeping the government from taxing them as much as 50% of their income? When you are making $20,000 a year are you really in that bracket? Whose income is it that the republicans are saving exactly? The guy making $20,000 or the guy making $200,000? And if they are so truly concerned about saving the poor guy so much mysterious tax money then WHY in the world are they SO against increasing the minimum wage from impossible to live on to almost impossible to live on? Wheres the logic in that again?
Oh wait do the rich need to worry about minimum wage? Only the business owners who don’t want to shell out $6.50 an hour or whatever when they can stick it to ya at $5.15 and STILL move off shore to build the profits even more. And in the end the minimum wage dude is stuck paying taxes on purchase items at a crippling rate while his boss pays him squat thanks to republicans insistence that we not raise the minimum wage AND no taxes thanks to locating their company name to Bermuda. Sounds like your secret is screw over the powerless and let me eat my cake too. Nice secret.

Wanna know what the simple plan is? Good, I'll tell you. Don't give your money away. If you must part with it, part with as little as possible. Once you've parted with it get as much back as possible. And for gods sake, never, ever, ever, let the government take one cent more than is absolutely necessary

No you have it confused. The simple plan is buy your politicians and never let go your strangle hold. Use your money and clout to insist on an unfair playing field because its too your benefit then scream bloody murder about how much money we are wasting on programs for the poor while ignoring the much larger problem of corporate welfare. Well done.

So, in short, the (D) wants to buy a vote by giving away other people hard earned money. The (R) party wants to buy your vote by allowing you to keep what is yours in the first place.

and that last one is sho nuff convenient when you have nothing to begin with aint it. :D

WHY HAVEN'T THE PROBLEMS BEEN FIXED MR KENNEDY?
MR KERRY?
MRS FEINSTEIN?
MR DASCHLE?
WHY?
WHY?
WHY?

Funny I was gonna ask the same thing of Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush, Bush, Gingrich, etc. etc. Of course the easy answer to my original question is because they feel they have no choice but to be taken for granted by the democrats because if they let the republicans truly have their way they would be in a much worse situation. Slightly screwed or royally screwed. That’s what they fear. Now the NEXT question is why is that. Hmm…
 
I wonder if the term "negroes" is meant to offend? It's about as close to that other word as you can come without being overtly offensive and racist. The PC term is African American and not being very PC myself, most "African Americans" I've known don't mind being called blacks.
 
Re: It ain't the color of yo skin

Winky said:
That's right them evil offshore corporations should be
paying for our Kids school books that makes sense to me.

And it sure makes sense to me that a republican would defend the right of a rich corporation to go off shore and avoid taxes for (nevermind school lunches and desks) his much vaunted military infrustructure including the hundreds of billions we are shelling out in iraq. more power to em eh! keep them damn oil prices down but dont charge me any damn taxes for it. its the american way!
 
markjs said:
I wonder if the term "negroes" is meant to offend? It's about as close to that other word as you can come without being overtly offensive and racist. The PC term is African American and not being very PC myself, most "African Americans" I've known don't mind being called blacks.

Sorry TD, I'll get to you in a minute.

Negro
Etymology: Spanish or Portuguese, from negro black, from Latin nigr-, niger
sometimes offensive : a member of a race of humankind native to Africa and classified according to physical features (as dark skin pigmentation)

There is no such thing as an African American. Same goes for any hyphenated American. Either you is or you ain't. I dislike the term black but will use it if asked.
 
TD said:
then WHY in the world are they SO against increasing the minimum wage from impossible to live on to almost impossible to live on?

Because it's not their job. That belongs to the marketplace.

TD said:
Whose income is it that the republicans are saving exactly? The guy making $20,000 or the guy making $200,000?

Can you recall the last poor guy that wrote you a payroll check? Me neither. Since the guy making $20k PAYS NO TAXES what's the problem?

we are wasting on programs for the poor while ignoring the much larger problem of corporate welfare.

Yes, it is a waste. There used to be private organizations for that purpose (saving the useless). Now it's a burden on all of us. Corporate welfare. You mean not making the big company who provides jobs for 5, 10, 50, 175, 300, 500, 1000 people pay more than their share? Maybe that big, greedy, selfish, monolithic corporation can just move it's big, greedy, selfish, monolithic corporate ass to Laos where they may actually get some work done and lay off the overworked & underpaid servant class. Look ma, no new taxes.

TD said:
Funny I was gonna ask the same thing of Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush, Bush, Gingrich, etc. etc.

They never promised you a rose garden.
 
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