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Gonz

Gonz

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Love, committment & trust are never-ending :bs:

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WND said:
Posted: December 21, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Suspicious wives are increasingly hiring so-called "honey-trap girls" to purposely come on to their husbands to test their commitments to their marriages.

According to a report in the Melbourne Herald Sun, women are paying licensed investigators to flirt with their husbands to see how they will react.

"It's a very rewarding job. I love it," Amber confessed to the paper. She had just spent time with a client's husband in a bar. The man, married four years with two young children, gave Amber his telephone number before the evening was over.

"I never let them kiss me, and it's not entrapment because I never ask them for anything," she points out. Entrapment, where the woman initiates contact with the man, is illegal in the area Amber plies her trade.

The woman explained she "smiled in a flirtatious way" when the man first entered the bar.

According to the report, clients are paying thousands of dollars for such fidelity checks. In Europe, the Australian paper said, a company called The Honey Trap is advertising for attractive recruits.

Don Doolan, president of the Association of Investigators and Security Professionals, told the Herald Sun demand for such services is booming in Australia.

"These techniques have always been used, but in the past 10 years there has probably been a five-fold increase," he said.

The process involves getting the attention of the "target" and then waiting for him to make the first move. Doolan says that often happens in a matter of minutes.

"Most blokes think below their belly button," Doolan told the paper.

The manager of another service, Kirri Cleaver of Gotcha Enterprises, says 40 percent of the targeted men do not tell the female investigator they are in a committed relationship.

One investigator shared an even worse statistic.

"In our experience, subjects are innocent in only about 10 percent of cases," Dalla Riva is quoted as saying.

Said Cleaver:"Women don't want to waste their time, or be used or have their heart broken. You buy a house, you're going to have it checked for rising damp, but you get into a relationship and nobody asks any questions."
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Said Cleaver:"Women don't want to waste their time, or be used or have their heart broken. You buy a house, you're going to have it checked for rising damp, but you get into a relationship and nobody asks any questions."
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Suspicious wives are increasingly hiring so-called "honey-trap girls" to purposely come on to their husbands to test their commitments to their marriages.
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A little late to be "checking for rising damp" at this point, eah?
I do think it could be a good thing if a woman is really suspicious though.
LOL I bet most of them are using their husbands own money to checkup on um too. :D

Now about before marriage....
If they are just casual dating, I don't think this is right, but
say if the two are engaged I can see the point.
 
There is when it comes to this. If you don't KNOW that your partner is going to be 100% faithful to you then you're both too retarded to even bother trying to get on.
 
Said Cleaver:"Women don't want to waste their time, or be used or have their heart broken(...)"
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I don't understand that. How could you be "used"? Or "waste you time". Sure you can have your heart broken, but isn't it due to your own expectations? I strongly believe nobody's no-one's property. I think such traps shouldn't be a valid argument in a court case...
 
AlladinSane said:
I strongly believe nobody's no-one's property. I think such traps shouldn't be a valid argument in a court case..
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Said the man who's never been married.

It's not "property", it's trust. The vows say to forsake all others. In this age of AIDS, what better gift to your spouse than not having to check for HIV before sex? What better way to prove your integrity than to fulfill your vows?

If the understanding is, before marriage, that you plan on having sex outside the marriage & the other party agrees, so be it. I'd never get involved in a relationship like that & my "significant other" always knew, in advance, that it was one strike & you're out...from either side.
 
catocom said:
A little late to be "checking for rising damp" at this point, eah?
I do think it could be a good thing if a woman is really suspicious though.
LOL I bet most of them are using their husbands own money to checkup on um too. :D

Now about before marriage....
If they are just casual dating, I don't think this is right, but
say if the two are engaged I can see the point.
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Seems like Maury Povich has spawned the ultimate in foolishness. Seems that he has done the same thing on a few shows...set up guys with women in order to test their fidelity. I'm just surprised that same trick hasn't been used on women as well. Before any ladies get upset, I'll offer this up...
1. If a woman knows a man is married, and lets herself get bedded by him anyway, then who is ultimately responsible for the act of adultry? The answer is both parties are guilty.
2. If the man tricks the woman, then what does that say about the woman? I'll let you answer this one, as I like my sack intact...
 
Gonz said:
Said the man who's never been married.
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So do you think I should have done it with whatever woman I had on spare, or what's your point in bringing this? Being single doesn't make me any less capable of judgement than you. You married someone that met the requirements. I did not because I never found such a person. That's just what can be said about it since you don't know me at all.
It's not "property", it's trust. The vows say to forsake all others.
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So the vows give you right to other person's exclusivity for life? If you think that you're just fooling yourself. Nobody stays with anyone because of vows. Hell 1 1/2 centuries of burning hell fate told by the church weren't capable of doing that. You stay with someone because you like it. And because you made yourself to be liked. If you fail to keep doin' so you're on your own. Of course, there are people that can be relied on, but then you have to choose better. Any way it's your own fault...

In this age of AIDS, what better gift to your spouse than not having to check for HIV before sex? What better way to prove your integrity than to fulfill your vows?
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So would you test your wife with such a service? Because if not I don't see the point in bringing that in such a context.

If the understanding is, before marriage, that you plan on having sex outside the marriage & the other party agrees, so be it. I'd never get involved in a relationship like that & my "significant other" always knew, in advance, that it was one strike & you're out...from either side.
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Ok, but would you charge her for honor reparation or moral damages? Would you say you were "used"? Would such an act disqualify all the life you had together? Would you say then that nothing she did was useful?
 
a13antichrist said:
There is when it comes to this. If you don't KNOW that your partner is going to be 100% faithful to you then you're both too retarded to even bother trying to get on.
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Well then the question comes down how do you know they will be faithful...in 2 years or 20?

You just don't, it is also fun to test out your partner every now and then but then again your paranoia may be severly less intense than mine.
 
seems to me you would need to have no respect for someone to hire a person to 'test the waters' or whatever.....i think it's despicable.
 
tonks said:
seems to me you would need to have no respect for someone to hire a person to 'test the waters' or whatever.....i think it's despicable.
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It is isn't it!!

It sounds so wrong and it is almost certain the victim would be quite displeased knowing of his/her test of fidelity but it just seems like the right thing to do in certain cases.

If i was rich i would be a lot more willing to try this.
 
If I were rich I'd hire a few "honey trap girls" to test me on a regular basis..........preferably 3 times a day :devious:
 
Alladinsane said:
Being single doesn't make me any less capable of judgement than you.
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In a case like this, yes, it does. I've been married & I've been single. You haven't been married.
 
I have complete trust in my wife, so the answer is no. If I thought she was fucking around & I decided to stay married, you bet your ass I would.

You're saying that you have knowledge that you haven't the experience to aquire. That's like a 17 year old telling a 35-yo what's what.
 
OK, I'm sure now, you didn't get my point on my first post
Oh, wake up tomorrow start running and hit a wall with your head. HARD!!!
 
tonks said:
seems to me you would need to have no respect for someone to hire a person to 'test the waters' or whatever.....i think it's despicable.
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Not respect for him/her and for yourself.

Tests are just stupid, if I was tested and found out that I was being tested, I would get a divorce. Not that i'm expecting such a thing, just making the remark on how hard it would piss me off.
 
Just listen to that song by Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes...

"If You Don't Know Me By Now





If you don't know me by now
You will never never never know me

All the things that we've been through
You should understand me like I understand you
Now girl I know the difference between right and wrong
I ain't gonna do nothing to break up our happy home
Oh don't get so excited when I come home a little late at night
Cause we only act like children when we argue fuss and fight

If you don't know me by now (If you don't know me)
You will never never never know me (No you won't)
If you don't know me by now You will never never never know me

We've all got our own funny moods
I've got mine, woman you've got yours too
Just trust in me like I trust in you
As long as we've been together it should be so easy to do
Just get yourself together or we might as well say goodbye
What good is a love affair when you can't see eye to eye,oh

If you don't know me by now (If you don't know me)
You will never never never know me (No you won't)
If you don't know me by now (You will never never never know me)
You will never never never know me (ooh)


Vocal - Harold Melvin and The Blue Notes, 1972
Words and music - Kenny Gamble & Leon Huff
 
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