Looks like the war starts tomorrow

I can understand that, but have you ever considered looking around to see if anybody else might be doing something wrong? Saddam Hussein leaps to mind.

God knows, US policy isn't perfect, but we're not the root cause of all evil and suffering in the world, and you seem to think we are. When you harp on this one subject all the time, to the exclusion of all others, people might start to write you off as a fanatic.
 
I don't judge what goverments do within their country, if Saddam is a son of a bitch i don't care as long as he keeps that in his territory.

I understand that is partially Saddam's fault, but let's not forget that Saddam obtained many weapons from the USA a long time ago (both chemical and biological).

Right now a connection between terrorist attacks and Iraq hasn't been probed. So to me this is nothing more than pure prepotence on the US behalf.

As the german chancellor said a few hours ago: "the UN resolution demands disarmament of Iraq, not a regime change".
 
Is it ok for a dictator to massacre millions of innocent citizens, so long as it's kept within his own country?

No? Where do you draw the line then? Be careful when you take such polarized stances and don't acknowledge that you're actually standing in a vast grey area... taking your view to its logical extreme clearly shows the error in such positions.
 
TO my mind, you and Jeslek are two of a kind. He's way too polarized in his unquestioning support of the US, and you're way too polarized in your negativity towards it.

Both of you lose credibility by living on the fringes.
 
OSLI, do you think that massacring another million in order to set them free would justify freeing them?

HL, i'm extremist when we are talking about war, i just can't stand it, and i'm not like LL, i can accept and rectify when i make a mistakes, just as i pointed in a previous post.
 
Luis G said:
OSLI, do you think that massacring another million in order to set them free would justify freeing them?
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(1) If I had to make a choice (in this hypothetical discussion) between allowing a million civilians to be killed, or killing the million soldiers who were going to execute them, I'd kill the soldiers in an instant. The soldiers have a choice, the civilians do not.

(2) Do you really treat the killing of Nazi-German soldiers the same as the killing of millions of Jews during the holocaust? A death is a death, surely, but the reasons for their deaths are anything but equivalent.

(3 In reality, we're not talking about killing millions of either. We're talking about deaths in the thousands to prevent the possibility of deaths in the millions. And again, deaths of those who have a choice vs. those who have no such choice.
 
outside looking in said:
Luis G said:
OSLI, do you think that massacring another million in order to set them free would justify freeing them?
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(1) If I had to make a choice (in this hypothetical discussion) between allowing a million civilians to be killed, or killing the million soldiers who were going to execute them, I'd kill the soldiers in an instant. The soldiers have a choice, the civilians do not.

(2) Do you really treat the killing of Nazi-German soldiers the same as the killing of millions of Jews during the holocaust? A death is a death, surely, but the reasons for their deaths are anything but equivalent.

(3 In reality, we're not talking about killing millions of either. We're talking about deaths in the thousands to prevent the possibility of deaths in the millions. And again, deaths of those who have a choice vs. those who have no such choice.
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Where are you getting that from? The estimates do reach the million mark and its estimated that 600,000 of that will be women and children. We will drop more bombs the first day than all of Desert Storm. And its due to impatience. Nothing else. The war will likely trigger more terrorist attacks than we would normally have expected.
 
Hey, one troop or 100,000 is something. Many countries are only giving us moral support-up to 30 in fact, but it's more than the UN does.
 
October 22nd, 2003
Bush Declares War in Iraq Still Over
Speaking to the nation from the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln, President Bush today announced that hostilities in Iraq are now officially still over.
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