"I don't want to have to kill this man, but I'll kill him graveyard dead"
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MrBishop
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I prefer devil's advocate
MrBishop
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Don't have to reach quite that far... someone at my house at 1am knocking on the front and back door and screaming to get my attention will get asked WTF he's up to and what he wants. IF, he doesn't have a decent answer like my house is on fire or he needs me to dial 911 for him, he'll get a response from the cops when they get there and if, despite all that he tried to get in..he'll get what he got from granny shotgun...period. Zero excuses. *
I have woken people up at 1am before by pounding on their door hard and screaming. Their triplex was on fire. If they'd shot me for my troubles, I'd expect them to go to jail for it...period. Zero excuses.
Montreal averages 6 minutes for cops and less for fire and ambulance.
South of there, where I live, it's even less.
*A hint..people who want to do you harm or want to steal from you will not knock first and try to get your attention
Cerise
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If Billy Dean Riley had verbally made his intent clear as to why he wanted into her home at 12:30 in the morning instead of pounding on the glass screaming let "me in let me in" and throwing a table through the patio door he'd probably still be alive today. 
Unless, of course, it was because he meant her harm that he wouldn't tell her.....
Unless, of course, it was because he meant her harm that he wouldn't tell her.....
H2O boy
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MrBishop said:
MrBishop said:
MrBishop said:
when you get done defending this piece of crap let us know mkay?
chickenshit cowards who break into homes sometimes like to find out if the house is unoccupied so they can be assured they wont get shot by a 16 gage shotgun too
MrBishop said:
doesnt matter. what matters is where they werent
it is not the fault of the cops that this guy is room temperature. it is not the fault of the homeowner that this guy is worm food. the blame rests squarely on the rapidly decomposing shoulders of the guy who jumped a fence evaded a dog and threw furniture through a door to gain entry into a home he had no busness being in. if that upsets your tender sensibilities too bad
i hope she not only escapes any bleeding heart charges but they give her a medal
Their job is to investigate crime, not stop it (unless they get lucky)
catocom
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speaking of cops...
anybody here watch that new Steven Seagal is a cop show?
He's alright in my book.
anybody here watch that new Steven Seagal is a cop show?
He's alright in my book.
MrBishop
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un hunh...
their job is to prevent crime through their presence, stop crimes in action and if they can do neither, investigate crime to try and find the culprits.
If it's not their job to stop crime, why bother having 9-1-1 linked to the police?
Why have panic buttons in stores and businesses if it's not the cops' job to go and stop a crime in process?
Whether they can get there in time is a whole other story.
MrBishop
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Defending him? Nope...breaking her window was a pretty stupid way of getting her attention..even though he never entered. Whether that deserves a death sentence is another story. I'm questionning why she shot to kill first instead of doing something first to avoid having to kill another human being.
Peaking into a window usually works, as does seeing if the car's in the driveway. Banging and screaming is not a way to help anyone break into a home. It is a way of getting people's attention, including neighbours and the home-owner. Don't be so obtuse.
DOnt' blame the cops, then...but holding the homeowner blameless? Not going to happen... where's the warning shot? Where's the verbal warning? None of it... shoot first and never ask any questions. Judge, jury, executioner. Bravo.
A medal? For what heroic effort? Shooting through her own door and killing someone? Real heroic.
Prevent through their presence. HOw many criminals commit crimes when they know a cop is there? How many wait until the cop has left the area? Lopsided answer?
911 is there to get the ball rolling. Sometimes it works, most often, not.
MrBishop
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Again, you're assuming that he actually
1) Knew that she was there &
2) Actually meant her harm.
A warning shot or even a warning that she'd called the police would've solved both her problems.
Gato_Solo
Out-freaking-standing OTC member
We've had this discussion before. See below for clarification...
Bish said:
If there is no crime going on, then there is no need for the police. The term we like to use is first responder.
2minkey
bootlicker
yeah, um, everybody here knows how long it takes the cops to get anywhere these days. so nothing there.
warning shot? um, that would be illegal discharge of a firearm in almost any city. we don't have "warning shots" here. you can't intentionally shoot someone in the leg, either. you can only shoot to kill, to stop the threat. the only time using deadly force - or potentially deadly force i.e. shooting of any kind - is legal is when there is imminent danger - threat of death or serious injury - to yourself or another. then you STOP THE THREAT.
jimpeel
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Not a good idea if your firearm is a single barrel, single shot model. Now you have a club instead of a firearm, a hole in your house, and the perp still in the house and coming at you.
MrBishop
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Any perp still 'in the house' after being fired upon is a waste of genetic materials.
Not that this guy was actually in the house at all. He was still outside when he met his end, 'member? She had to go outside to check on him.
She had 3 in the hole...plenty for a warning shot.
Not that this guy was actually in the house at all. He was still outside when he met his end, 'member? She had to go outside to check on him.
She had 3 in the hole...plenty for a warning shot.