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we learned THAT they did it, and HOW they did it.... ....among other methods, weapons of mass destruction...er....blankets.... ...and we learned that in 8th grade. MADrin

..and one last word on this before I hit the sack..I think people misunderstand me about the UN argument. I don't personally subscribe to the notion that in this case, or even in 91, there needed to BE any UN input. As mentioned before several times, I don't even think the UN is...

I think, Squiggy....that the accounting was to include all facets of weaponry...prohibited and otherwise....especially prohibited... If you'll refer back to Blix's most recent reporting on the Al samoud missiles you will see that as functioning missiles they would certainly be required to be...

I'm not even sure why there IS a process of resolve in the UN. As Squiggy points out, there are thousands of ignored resolutions...why does anyone bother? No one really seems to be "united" at the United nations anyway... plus the French have a veto and a permanent seat.... man, if...

Newsmax! HA! ...a funny site much of the time. Also right wing propaganda site extrordinaire... masterful use of Estrada by the hard right, BTW... it works out to be just about a "can't win" for the Dems... Bravo! MADrin

Yes I believe it was UN res. 686...I was watching this on Discovery the other day. there were 5 or 6 terms..that's all, really...and language about no fly zones... the terms were pretty reasonable...annexation of Kuwait was rescinded, pow's returned, financial liability on Iraq's part to...

I imagine that Washington would like to let Russia save some face in this regard....China too, for that matter, so once again the French get to hide behind ancillary diplomacy.... The UN is finished as an institution, I think. Oh, it'll continue to meet, and everyone will still spend this...

5 6 k i s a s .........drop *reconnect*...... screeeeeeeeeeeecccchhhhhhhhhhhhhh... 5 6 k is as fast as .....drop........ sucks to live in bumblefuck.... MADrin

My great granny, bless her soul that passed on at the age of 101 in 1994, told me this....one month before she died suddenly... "You know how you always learned that the meek shall inherit the earth? It's a goddamn lie..I've been meek for a century and I never inherited shit..." grandma...

Yeah Squiggy..you and a LOT of other people had that experience. was it a long time ago? maybe...maybe not....but they did suck mightily at one time..... Now, however....they have quite good cust. satisfaction numbers... ..anyway....to each his own..and good luck on finding the...

...or, Squiggy...if you look to your left...that beautiful "sunshine" camper/motor coach home away from home, including a zippy 2 litre fuel injected motor, 4 speed manual...new tires... ..and SO MUCH MORE! ...all for the low low price of.... ..well... pretty low... DAMN LOW...

Check out the Hyundai SUV, Squiggy....I've driven several different iterations of that one and it's a great ride. Right around your price as well... good warranty...decent incentives (in CA. anyhow), sorta crappy mileage like the Kia...but hey, it's an SUV... ..and I KNOW you want new..but...

It ranges from 5-8 depending on what happens to be going on at any given moment. Some weeks are great...others blow... ..let me tell you this , though...excepting extremely technical training , college just finishes you off mentally and physically so that whatever occupation you choose...

You know, Hex..I think I misread that as well. ....well, now that I've read your last bit about it I can see where you're coming from. I could come up with something anecdotal I guess...but it wouldn't approach what you put up there...it'd only be for the sake of argument, and I've kinda...

Yes indeedy! I'm now officially a tool...er..a member! MADrin

Hey Squiggy..I own that particular model and year of rifle(6.5 carcano)....and a vintage scope approximately like the one of the three that fit that model at the time... ...and I've won several 200 and one 500 yard matches in the .308 class ...and there's not a snowball's chance in hell...

I think they do...animals, as someone else said here, perhaps have a "truer" love in them. ..and most animals are quite a lot more likeable than most people I meet... MADrin

..isn't that neat? The foreign human shields have their spots hand chosen for them by their loving and generous hosts...the Hussein regime.... .....but then balk when it becomes likely they'd be bullseye circles... No shit...I'd have never guessed that'd happen...not in a million years...

Yeah, Flavio, they WERE. That's the point...they were from a study that was misapplied because it(a 3 yr outlook) referred to the WORLD,...NOT the US, the corresponding study being the 10 year time period. YOU are incorrect either way, because if you cite the former you ignore the time...

there IS some small semblance of logic there...except that it's been twisted and stretched by spin doctors with an obvious agenda... I KNOW what study has made the rounds on the full media circuit of late. I heard the exact same thing on the radio yesterday...and it was badly done...