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"The Mouse That Roared" ...great flick.... pertinent too! MADrin

You know...I have a couple relatives who were Vietnam war protesters back in the day...and then on to whatever cause of the day they could find until they reached the age where they realized they actually needed money and a place to live... ..and I have talked to them at great length about...

...and the greatest irony of all....which goes back to Hex and my exchange about "semites".... nite! MADrin

well, Hex..I haven't posited an opinion on Israel's legitimacy (stolen or not).... ...I merely asked what you thought about their role in the ongoing transformation of the region...positive or negative... when you look back at the thread I feel confident you'll see the invitation to take...

Oh yes, Gonz, I've read the lineage and geo-political theories of Israel/Palestine many many times, from dozens of different authors...probably more than you think. I am well versed on the subject. But it's really a question of what YOU or anyone who cares to take it there thinks..thats why I...

I dunno Squiggy..I can't apeak for anyone else...but as for me, I'll argue any situation just for giggles. If someone subscribes to UN legitimacy then I'll argue within that framework....and have done so here. If you don't subscribe to that I'm happy to argue there as well..and have done...

No problemo, Hex... Do you or do you not believe that Israel desires a peaceful resolution to it's local issues, as well as regionwide harmony....and if you do believe that do you think it acts in such a way to further those goals... ..aside from defense considerations. I do not begrudge...

Hmmm..I rather thought there'd be a lot of Israel supporters weighing in... MADrin

Put me in the For column. I think the "evidence the public won't see for 75 years" might have been better worded, because it implies that you personally know something most people don't, since you said that "I've yet to see[anyone], after seeing the evidence the public won't see for 75...

...among other places.... yep... MADrin

I don't think anyone would ever question that SH is about as shitty as a person gets...and his entire regime as well... ...but , you know....the whole region is under the yolk of repression, whether it be Islamic fundamentalism, or just more or less secular petty dictator crap as in Iraq...

Yeah...I remember that one... MADrin

Yeah Gonz..I was a little late getting that post of mine up...and saw your quote after. Well...she's a melted, miscreant, has been anyway.... I honestly wouldn't have expected any such thing even from her, but I guess if anyone is going to say such a thing, why not her? I suggest...

I think that might be yet another made up "fact" put out by a hungry media... I tell you...the things that are getting repeated these days just amaze me... one person does it on the radio or tv and all of a sudden it's "truth". ...I gotta hope this all turns out to be a misquote or...

Damn straight. We had a meeting the other day, because it seems that just NO ONE wants to do any business whatsoever. We discussed the ME situation with respect to our target investors..and we called a few who are on the fence, and each person said that they wouldn't be inclined to do anything...

Not me... I do not approve of the "plan", such as it is. I'd probably take more of a scorched earth policy in this regard. There are an awful lot of legitimate targets in the region....far more than JUST Iraq... ...but that kind of a policy would never be instituted... You know...lets...

...and not only that...even the people that DO have money are holding onto it tightly... no jobs...no cashflow...no business... ...our little company feels it sharply... MADrin

A lot... ...part of my work is in acquiring vineyards...so a lot of wine flows through here just because... No excuses , though.... I like it.... I probably have the equivalent of 3-4 drinks a day when the weekend is factored in... MADrin

I was once asked to leave a mall for wearing ...get this...a Ronnie RAY-gun t-shirt... ...you might have seen this back then...Ron Reagan in a space suit with this ridiculous campy ray gun thing pointed at Soviet ICBM's... ..anyway, at the time he was quite popular and someone took offense...

Hex, I'm paying 1.79 a gallon here on the central coast, for regular unleaded... ...I think unclehobart is right though about streamlining...and efficiency in general. Example: 2 miles from where I live is a medium size cracking plant...that gasoline goes to the LA region, and the gasoline...