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We can chalk this up as yet ANOTHER reason crime is so high.

Welcome to the reason we have so much crime....

I dont think saying that "our society" has a problem with violence is accurate. What our society has is 1) a very very sorry justice system that allows more murders back out on the streets or never catches them in the first place 2) A general societal attitude towards criminals that "they...

Squig So you found 1 example of a child getting hold of a gun and tragic results. Whoopty doo. I can show you about 2,000+ examples of children being killed in car wrecks in 2003 alone, in the united states alone. Its irresponsible people..nothing more nothing less. When...

Yeap that does make sense. If memory serves, some folks got in trouble fron the NFL for broadcasting a play off on a big screen at some type of local sporting event..... The legality of it makes sense....but from a COMMON SENSE perspective....why the hell sue for airing somthing that is...

When I was 14 I was playing football, riding dirt bikes, target practicing with a BB gun, exploring the woods around my house, renting movies, playing video games....and just hoping I could find a girl to give me the time of day... Do you really think its BETTER FOR THEM to sit in chat rooms...

I really liked Agent Cody Banks...but I hated that scene where they portrayed the CIA as a bunch of incompetent nit-wits riding around on segways all day..(or was that based on reality?? :D )

Well so far we had a gun thread, and a brief discussion about use of lethal force in the debate thread. One point I didnt make in either place. In the states in areas where legal concealed is permitted, everyone carrying a gun isnt the stereotypical redneck, power hungry, idiot...

That would be like me buring down my house and killing my family "to raise money". The loss would far far out weight any potential gains... I think they are on crack.

Our laws are very very simliar with a couple of exceptions...our laws are actually more stringent. We have a "duty to retreat". Meaning that if you have a means of escape, or retreat (running away, going from one room to another etc) you are required to do so before using lethal force...

Talking about a "tricky law"! I dont agree. According to that, if a guy told you he was going to "kill you", you could park in front of his house and blow his head off when he left for work in the morning...now THAT IS VIGILANTE! I disagree with that totally! A responsible gun owner does...

I had a post here to puter tutor, but changed it because he is absolutely right (and I was wrong)!

Thats not correct Paul. Think of the war in IRAQ. We are not using the George Bush definition of "threat" here, we are using the UN version of "threat". You can only use deadly force for immediate, apparant, imminent threat to life, limb, or rape. This was also addressed in the...