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For the same reason they believe in gubmint death panels or that the gubmint was really behind 9/11. They're fucking morons. BTW, didja ever hear the song?

Re: No history in Quebec court: drunk driver gets life, but not dangerous-offender ta Same shit happens here.

Perhaps not. My wife knows the password to this computer. ;)

See, you guys just don't understand what family values are.

I wonder if anyone, anywhere can show me any system run by any government that doesn't have any flaws. It's hardly the point now, is it?

Oooh those pesky commies.

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I call them neocons because calling them conservatives would be disrespectful to good Americans like Nelson Rockefeller and Ronald Reagan.

Yes, but like everything else the neocons don't approve of it's all their fault (the commie bastards). :grinyes: BTW, the release of the Lockerbie bomber was strictly a cash and carry deal. Clearly. Wake the fuck up, people. Anything can be forgiven or forgotten for enough money.

Brad and circuses rj, bread and circuses.

Actually, I want the federal government torn down and rebuilt in a more equitable manner. It is completely impossible to have a meaningfully representative government under the system as it stands. This in no way obviates the need for health care reform and you have to work with what you've got...

I'll keep that in mind the next time you need a cop or a fireman.

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Not what's best for us, what's best for the ruling class. If you don't believe there's a ruling class, I suggest you look again.

Yep.

Yeah, that's it. Or maybe, just maybe if we had addressed this problem fifty years ago or health care system might not be on the verge of collapse today? The point was that even people whom you admire recognized the problem with the system before you were born and yet you blithely...

Truman tried to get mandatory health insurance instituted and Eisenhower was an advocate of health care reform and government subsidies for health insurance. Edit: History does not relate their stands on "Death Panels." :lol:

It wasn't really all that bad thirty years ago, Valkyrie. I have a cousin who lived there then. It is nicer now though.

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You think?