Death to America?

catocom

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As protests rage across Afghanistan for the third day in response to the burning of Korans at a U.S. military base, some are questioning whether the parade of apologies from the U.S. government may do more harm than good.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-analysts-warn/?test=latestnews#ixzz1nK8rcIpQ

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...uld-fan-flames-analysts-warn/?test=latestnews

Sounds like time for that long long overdue carpet bombing with MOABs.
Make some pretty glass.
These people will NEVER be a friend to the U.S.
 
hmmmm i wonder what you would do if an occupation force in the US started burning bibles???

well, okay, i wonder how you would feel. cause i doubt you'd be out rabble rousing.
 
It happens here in this country somewhere quite often it seems.
As does the burning of a perfectly good U.S. flag.

I don't particularly like it, but I just think those people are ignorant.
What's in the Bible that they are burning through it says vengeance is the Lord's.
Not my place to get upset about it.
 
hmmmm i wonder what you would do if an occupation force in the US started burning bibles???

Well now...

Pulling bibles out of Barnes & Noble & throwing them onto a bonfire;

or,

Inadvertently have a box or two go out with the trash?

HUGE difference.
 
you'd deny that there was any 'accident' as you're always on patrol for something to get upset about and someone else to blame. unions, management, elites, economists and other experts of any kind, muslims, et cetera. you'd not hear any explanation offered to you. you're just like the swirling mass of anger that exists over there.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...uld-fan-flames-analysts-warn/?test=latestnews

Sounds like time for that long long overdue carpet bombing with MOABs.
Make some pretty glass.
These people will NEVER be a friend to the U.S.

You don't get it. The U.S. is occupying Afghanistan without the consent of the people there and these occupiers are commiting acts of desecration against their religion. Of course they will not like the U.S.

Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfuS6gfxPY
 
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You don't get it. The U.S. is occupying Afghanistan without the consent of the people there and these occupiers are commiting acts of desecration against their religion. Of course they will not like the U.S.

Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfuS6gfxPY

We are Occupying there because the previous, and current Admins did,
and are pussyfooting around with it.
They killed thousands of us on 9/11.
We shoulda laid waste to them All then, but Noooo.

Don't be stupid Goth. They Hated us before we went in there.
The only good option every was a massive bombing. The end.

I believe it is you, my friend, that doesn't get it.
 
That's why you need the ulterior motive of Conquest.
Not to mention compensating for the cost.
 
vengeance will only burn you up inside. turn the other cheek.

Snicker. How's this for some thinking. How come the person doing the slapping is almost always asking you to "turn the other cheek"? While we're at it, what does that phrase mean in a historical context?
 
We are Occupying there because the previous, and current Admins did,
and are pussyfooting around with it.
They killed thousands of us on 9/11.
We shoulda laid waste to them All then, but Noooo.

They didn't have anything to do with it. The supposed hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. There is no evidence that Bin Laden was behind 9/11. As Chomsky well pointed out:


Washington’s Blog
November 6, 2010

Leading liberal intellectual Noam Chomsky just told Press TV:

“The explicit and declared motive of the [Afghanistan] war was to compel the Taliban to turn over to the United States, the people who they accused of having been involved in World Trade Center and Pentagon terrorist acts. The Taliban…they requested evidence…and the Bush administration refused to provide any,” the 81-year-old senior academic made the remarks on Press TV’s program a Simple Question.

“We later discovered one of the reasons why they did not bring evidence: they did not have any.”

The political analyst also said that nonexistence of such evidence was confirmed by FBI eight months later.

“The head of FBI, after the most intense international investigation in history, informed the press that the FBI believed that the plot may have been hatched in Afghanistan, but was probably implemented in the United Arab Emirates and Germany.”

Chomsky added that three weeks into the war, “a British officer announced that the US and Britain would continue bombing, until the people of Afghanistan overthrew the Taliban… That was later turned into the official justification for the war.”

“All of this was totally illegal. It was more, criminal,” Chomsky said.
As Wired wrote on September 27, 2001:

President Bush has said he has evidence that Osama bin Laden was behind the attacks, so it would seem obvious that the FBI would include him and other suspects on its 10 most wanted fugitives Web page.

Think again.

Bin Laden is listed, but only for the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya. There is no mention of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing or the attacks on the USS Cole in October 2000, both of which he is widely believed to have orchestrated. And forget about Sept. 11.

The reason? Fugitives on the list must be formally charged with a crime, and bin Laden is still only a suspect in the recent attacks in New York City and Washington.

“There’s going to be a considerable amount of time before anyone associated with the attacks is actually charged,” said Rex Tomb, who is head of the FBI’s chief fugitive publicity unit and helps decide which fugitives appear on the list. “To be charged with a crime, this means we have found evidence to confirm our suspicions, and a prosecutor has said we will pursue this case in court.”

Larry C. Johnson, a former CIA officer who was deputy director of the U.S. State Department Office of Counterterrorism from 1989 to 1993, said in a Sept. 12 interview conducted by Frontline that there is no concrete proof that bin Laden is responsible for the USS Cole and the 1993 WTC attacks, but bin Laden celebrates those attacks and associates himself with people who are responsible for it.

President Bush promises to reveal evidence linking bin Laden to the suicide hijackers who attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Bin Laden has applauded the attacks but denies direct involvement.​

The Bush administration never provided such evidence.

As I wrote last December:

President Obama said Tuesday night as justification for the surge in troops in Afghanistan:
We did not ask for this fight. On September 11, 2001, 19 men hijacked four airplanes and used them to murder nearly 3,000 people.

Al Qaeda’s base of operations was in Afghanistan, where they were harbored by the Taliban”, who refused to turn over Osama bin Laden.​

Is that true?

On October 14, 2001, the Taliban offered to hand over Osama bin Laden to a neutral country if the US halted bombing if the Taliban were given evidence of Bin Laden’s involvement in 9/11.​

Specifically, as the Guardian writes:​

Returning to the White House after a weekend at Camp David, the president said the bombing would not stop, unless the ruling Taliban “turn [bin Laden] over, turn his cohorts over, turn any hostages they hold over.” He added, “There’s no need to discuss innocence or guilt. We know he’s guilty” …

Afghanistan’s deputy prime minister, Haji Abdul Kabir, told reporters that the Taliban would require evidence that Bin Laden was behind the September 11 terrorist attacks in the US.

“If the Taliban is given evidence that Osama bin Laden is involved” and the bombing campaign stopped, “we would be ready to hand him over to a third country”, Mr Kabir added.​

However, as the Guardian subsequently points out:​

A senior Taliban minister has offered a last-minute deal to hand over Osama bin Laden during a secret visit to Islamabad, senior sources in Pakistan told the Guardian last night.

For the first time, the Taliban offered to hand over Bin Laden for trial in a country other than the US without asking to see evidence first in return for a halt to the bombing, a source close to Pakistan’s military leadership said.​

And yet … the U.S. turned down the offer and instead prosecuted war.​

And in 2006, FBI agent Rex Tomb told reporter Ed Haas that the FBI still did not have enough evidence:

The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.
In fact, many leading liberals have expressed doubts about 9/11, including Daniel Ellsberg, Ray McGovern, William Blum, Dennis Kucinich, Mike Gravel, Lewis Lapham, Dan Hamburg, Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan, Amy Goodman, Thom Hartmann, Rabbi Michael Lerner, Marc Crispin Miller, Howard Zinn, Robert McChesney, Gore Vidal, Chris Floyd, Robert Fisk, Medea Benjamin, Doris “Granny D” Haddock, Paul Hawken, David Cobb, Randy Hayes, Ernest Callenbach, Dennis Bernstein, Paul H. Ray, Michael Franti, Janeane Garafalo and Ed Asner.

As have many prominent old-fashioned conservatives. And the 9/11 Commissioners themselves. See this.

Source

Don't be stupid Goth. They Hated us before we went in there.
The only good option every was a massive bombing. The end.

Yes, they do hate the U.S. prior to the occupation and with good reason. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ7Hz7WCQE8

The only good option was showing them evidence that Bin Laden was behind 9/11. Then the Taliban would have handed him over.

I believe it is you, my friend, that doesn't get it.

Oh, I get it.
 
chomsky can blow me. his academic work is boring and fascist, and his polemics are nothing more than sniveling, butthurt pageantry.

but i suppose he is appealing to sophomoric types that like to go marching.
 
They didn't have anything to do with it. The supposed hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. There is no evidence that Bin Laden was behind 9/11. As Chomsky well pointed out:
.

They didn't hand over bin-laden when we told um to.
That made them accomplices.

That's all I needed to know at the time, and now we know more, and it's not good.
 
They didn't hand over bin-laden when we told um to.
That made them accomplices.

That's all I needed to know at the time, and now we know more, and it's not good.

If a foreign country thought YOU were behind an attack and wanted you to be handed over to them then wouldn't you want your government to demand evidence before you are handed over instead of blindly following orders?

It is very arrogant for the U.S. to think they do not have to prove anything. Might does not equal right.
 
The way I remember it,....
We were in negotiations with them, and they said they would hand him over, then
they reneged and let him slip out the back.

I know what they are there.
If you like um, maybe you oughta go live with um.
 
Like I've always said...
It's not that I'm bigoted, except against ANY person(or peoples) that doesn't act right.

With the exception of parts of Kashmir, the Kurdish areas, and a few other spots,
IMO everything between Jordan and India should be laid to waste.
 
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