Curso de español

[Luis G]

Based on your votes i decided to make the thread

Palabras del dia:
see = ver
look = mirar
to observe = observar

The order of the conjugations will always be the same: i, you,he/she,we,plural you and they

Present:
veo,ves,ve,vemos,ven,ven
miro,miras,mira,miramos,miran,miran
observo,observas,observa,observamos,observan,obser van


On latin spanish, there's no vosotros nor vos, which replace you and plural you in Spain's spanish.

Notice how the conjugation of plural you and they is the same, and as far as i can tell right now, is the same for all verbs.

[Luis G]

There's one "weird" letter in spanish:

ñ = alt 164
Ñ = alt 165

[Leslie]

:headbang:

Curso what is the definition of that? Are we cursing spanish in this thread? :laugh:

What are

I
you
we
you
they

in espanol? I can't figure how to get the tilde.

[Luis G]

I = yo
you = tú (with that little line over the u)
he/she = él / ella
we = nosotros/nosotras (masculine/feminine)
plural you = ustedes
they = ellos/ellas (m/f)

All neutral are considered masculine.

Curso = a study course

[Luis G]

á = 160
é = 130
í = 161
ó = 162
ú = 163

[Leslie]

yo curso espanol?

still can't figure the tilde :confuse3:

[Luis G]

ALT + 160 should put á, and so on....


to write the ñ use alt+165


Wow, you said it the right way.

to take or to follow a course of study = cursar

¿yo curso español? (a question in spanish need an initial ¿ )
sí, tú cursas español :D :D

[Leslie]

:D

If I can do french I can do spanish. So there is no neutral, just feminine or masculine?

Maybe I don't have it or I'm doing it wrong. :confuse3:

[Luis G]

Maybe is the code page you're using, i can't write the euro symbol on my computer :confuse3:

Can you do the accents with the ascii codes i wrote?? (á é í ó ú)

[Guest]

deseo mirar la chepa Leslie de Gilbert :eek: :headbang: :D

[Leslie]

¿ found that one :D

Ñññññ with colon
é alt 130
the other alts don´t work
oh found ´ áéíóú aha!!!! :D

no alts, added spanish mexico to the keyboard :cool:

español :D

yo veo ñ :D

[Luis G]

you're doing pretty good Leslie, now try doing some senteces with the verbs i posted.

s4: :confuse3:

[Leslie]

s4 - continúe soñar :P

Luis I need some nouns to make sentences with :D

[Luis G]

Leslie es mi amiga canadiense :eek:

[Luis G]

Originally posted by L. Summerton
s4 - continúe soñar :P

Luis I need some nouns to make sentences with :D


friend = Amigo/a (m/f)
water = agua
desktop = escritorio
sky = cielo

Here are the previous words of the day:

Palabras del dia:[/]
see = ver
look = mirar
observe = observar
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Palabras del dia:[/]
computer = computadora
speed = velocidad
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Palabras del dia:[/]
water = agua
beer = cerveza
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Words of th day.
word = palabra
of = de
the = el/la (i must remind you that sustantives are male/female too)
day = día (with that little line above the i)
the complete sentence would be: palabra de el día, but "de el" is incorrect and should be replaced for del: palabra del día
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[Leslie]

I need the conjugations of "to be","to have"and the possessive "my"

yo veo agua
¿tú observas el computerdora?
Mi día es May 23 :D

[Luis G]

my = mi
your = tu (without the accent)
his/her = su
our = nuestro
their = su

Here comes something extra....possesive referring to more than one thing:

my cars = mis carros
your cars = tus carros
his/her cars = sus carros
our cars = nuestros carros
their cars = sus carros

Birthday = cumpleaños


psst, computadora is feminine, la computadora[/siz]

[Luis G]

to be and to have are a completely confussion....

Only present conjugations.

to be = ser
i am = yo soy
you are = tú eres
he/she is = él/ella es
we are = nosotros somos
"plural you" are = ustedes son
they are = ellos son

to have = haber
i have = yo he
you have = tú has
he/she have = él/ella ha
we have = nosotros hemos
"plural you" have = ustedes han
they have = ellos han

to have is tricky for me, please correct me if i use it wrong. (have, has, had are tricky and i get confused)

[Leslie]

:eek2:
I'm going to have to print that out :eek:


¿Ellos han carros?
Tu has computerdora.
Luis es mi amigo.
Mi cumpleaños es May 23.
¿Tu cumpleaños es...?
Ustedes han cerveza.
Yo soy tu amigo.
Ellos son observan carros. (they are watching?)
or Ellos son observar carros.
:D

[Luis G]

Originally posted by L. Summerton
:eek2:
I'm going to have to print that out :eek:


¿Ellos han carros?
Tu has computerdora.
Luis es mi amigo.
Mi cumpleaños es May 23.
¿Tu cumpleaños es...?
Ustedes han cerveza.
Yo soy tu amigo.
Ellos son observan carros. (they are watching?)
or Ellos son observar carros.
:D



So that means i wrote it properly in english, for a moment i thought that it should be he/she has ?(

Hrmmm, i think i misundersood "to have", the verb haber does not indicate possesion, it is used like in "i've been there"

present, verb have (possesion)
have = tener
i have = yo tengo
you have = tú tienes
he/she has = él/ella tiene
we have = nosotros tenemos
"plural you" have = ustedes tienen
they have = ellos tienen


I will appreciate if someone points me my english mistakes. ;)

[Leslie]

:eek: have to print and study, I fear :eek:

you're right

I have
you have
he/she has
you (pl) have
they have

didn't notice in my state of confusion :confuse3: :D

[Luis G]

Originally posted by L. Summerton
1.- ¿Ellos han carros?
2.- Tu has computerdora.
3.- Luis es mi amigo.
4.- Mi cumpleaños es May 23.
5.- ¿Tu cumpleaños es...?
6.- Ustedes han cerveza.
7.- Yo soy tu amigo.
8.- Ellos son observan carros. (they are watching?)
or Ellos son observar carros.
:D



1.- ¿Ellos tienen carros?
2.- Tú tienes una computadora.
3.- :D
4.- Mi cumpleaños es el 23 de mayo
5.- ¿Cuándo es tu cumpleaños?
6.- Ustedes tienen cerveza. (you have beer)
7.- :D
8.- Ellos observan carros (they watch cars)
Ellos están observando los carros (they are watching the cars, don't try to learn this one....yet)

You make the sentences very well, you did it wrong this time because i gave you the wrong verb.

[Leslie]

:D Need some study time :D

how about

a = un, una?

some = ?

like = ?

[Luis G]

Originally posted by L. Summerton
a = un, una?
some = ?
like = ?


a/an = un/una (m/f)
some = algunos/algunas
like = como

[Leslie]

como - that is like as in the beer is yellow like pee? :D

I was looking for like as in I like ice cream. :D

but I can use como too :D

[Luis G]

ohhhhh like in i like you :D :D

You know, that's a very complex verb...because it implicates two persons....
"person" like "it" or "this" or "that"
i like = me gusta
you like = te gusta
he/she likes = le gusta (no feminine)
we like = nos gusta
pyou like = les gusta
they like = les gusta

[Guest]

Indirecta enferma del ofter de las fantasías en una mente incluso más enferma.

[Leslie]

half deciphered, a few of your words aren't in any dictionary I've looked in, if that can be corrected I'll have the rest, unless Luis or someone else will step in.

[Luis G]

ofter ??????

indirect sick of the "ofter" of the fantasies in an even sicker mind :confuse3:

[Luis G]

Palabras del dia:
love = amor
to love = amar

[Luis G]

yo amo
tú amas
él/ella ama
nosotros amamos
ustedes aman
ellos aman

[Leslie]

Yo gusta agua.
Te gusta cerveza.
Nosotros tenemos computadoras.
Yo miro la mente enferma de s4 :eek:
Mi cabeza es en nubes.
Yo soy cansado.

[Q]

Originally posted by s4
Indirecta enferma del ofter de las fantasías en una mente incluso más enferma.
¿qué? eso fue retardada

[Luis G]

Originally posted by L. Summerton
1.- Yo gusta agua.
2.- Te gusta cerveza.
3.- Nosotros tenemos computadoras.
4.- Yo miro la mente enferma de s4 :eek:
5.- Mi cabeza es en nubes.
6.- Yo soy cansado.


1.- Me gusta el agua. (water is masculine)
2.- Te gusta la cerveza. (:wink2:)
3.- :wink2:
4.- :wink2:
5.- Mi cabeza está nublada (my head is clowded ??? )
6.- Estoy cansada (remember that you're a "she")

[Luis G]

Originally posted by *Q*
¿qué? eso fue retardada


:wink2:

[Q]

Gracias :)

...es verdad, ¿no?

[Luis G]

Así es :)

[outside looking in]

Um... mas despacio, por favor.

You're making my head hurt! :D

[Luis G]

Luis está bien pedo
Luis está borracho.....

Luis tomó mucho.....

Luis está escribiendo estupideces.....

[Luis G]

:headbang:

[Luis G]

:D

[Leslie]

:eek: you feel better this morning?

[Luis G]

:laugh: :laugh:

Yeap, i feel much better !!!!

Gracias

[Gato_Solo]

Yo tengo uno verga... :P

[Luis G]

I was worried about it :D :D


pssst, it should be "una"[/siz]

[a13antichrist]

Las chicas españolas son bastante abiertas - lo que es superbuen para yo.. ;)

[Luis G]

:D :D

pssst.....this the español class, it should be "superbueno para mi"[/siz] ;)

[AlladinSane]

Originally posted by Luis G
(water is masculine)
Masculine? I thought the genders were the same as in portuguese.

[Luis G]

I said that to avoid confussions. :D

Water (agua) is feminine, but you must use the masculine "el" to avoid cacophony. And say "el agua" instead of "la agua".

[AlladinSane]

:retard:
Well we say "a água". What's wrong with that?

[Luis G]

Probably it doesn't produce cacophony in portuguese. The most clear example in english would be "the end", "the evening", etc.

Spanish rules are a little different.

[Luis G]

el agua (water), el azucar(sugar), el atardecer (when the sun goes down in the afternoon, ???), el animal, el amor (love).

La ambición (ambition), la arquitectura (architecture), la apariencia (appearance).

:confuse3:

:D :D

[Gato_Solo]

Mi lapiz es larga, duro, y amarillo...:D

[Leslie]

:confuse3: eh?

[Leslie]

:confuse3: What I got from that so far is large, durex condoms, and armadillos :eek6:

[Gato_Solo]

:roll2: I'm old, not bestial...

[Leslie]

:eek6:

:rofl2:

[Luis G]

rofl2

Mi lapiz es larga, duro, y amarillo... [biggrin.gif]

My pencil is long, hard, and yellow D

[Gato_Solo]

Uno pajaro en sus manos es mejor que dos en el arbole... :D

[Leslie]

:eek: A private is under a man and a major in the arbor?? !! :eek:

[Luis G]

is a colloquialism (and very old, probly more than 100 years old), "un pajaro en mano es mejor que un ciento volando"

which means, "a bird in your hand is better than a hundred flying", it is meant to indicate that it is better to be certain to have one thing than a hundred possibilities to have other stuff.

[Leslie]

Aha! We have the same one here, but it's "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" :headbang:

[Luis G]

ohhhh, and that's what Gato said.

[Gato_Solo]

En el ban~o, yo soy nudo, limpia, y mojado...

[Luis G]

i have something for you Gato ;)

Hofolafa Gafatofosofolofo, ¿cofómofo efestafas?
Quifizafás nofo efentiefendefes efestofo poforquefe efestafa efescrifitofo cofon lafa efefefe ;)

[unclehobart]

pig latin spanish?

[Luis G]

it is "spanish encrypted" :D

[unclehobart]

creepy... I can read it.

[Luis G]

written is easy, but speaking it fluently (and fast) is tricky for many people.

[Scanty]

go sit in a chair.

:D
:retard:

[Gato_Solo]

Yo soy nin~o malo... :D

[Luis G]

¿mufuy mafalofo ? :D

[Scanty]

:(

[Gato_Solo]

Pobrecita Scanty...Nosotros quiero... :D

[Scanty]

Ich verstehe nichts... :(

[Gato_Solo]

Uhhh...Eine bier bitte?

[Scanty]

Du bist dorf.

:D

[Gato_Solo]

Ich bien Americanischer... (?)

[Shadowfax]

Ich bin stolz ein Machinenbauer zu sein :headbang:


:P

[Scanty]

Im Deutschland das wetter shite ist.

:headbang:

[Gato_Solo]

Okay...Mira...eso es Curso de Espan~ol...no Curso de Allemande, o Ingles, o Japaneso. Habla espan~ol, o nada... :P

BTW, Scanty...Shouldn't you be studying? :P

[Scanty]

WHAT IS ALL THIS ABOUT ME STUDYING??? WHAT AM I STUDYING????

I don't get it. :confuse3: :( :D

[Gato_Solo]

Ummm...notes? Papers...Writing a book?

[Scanty]

I'm not studying anything, lol. I'm not at school.

[PT]

Your German shit is wet? WTF?

[Scanty]

Yes. My German shit is wet. You got a problem with that, monkey-boy?

:D :D :retard:

[PT]

No problem there, Springy Chick.

[Scanty]

Springy Chick. :D lol


Munter Muncher :D

[PT]

Munter? :confuse3:

[PT]

Is that a synonym for carpet?

:D

[Scanty]

munter = ugly girl

which means eww :D

[unclehobart]

Our unabashed dictionary defines IUD as 'Love springs internal'.

[PT]

Ewwwww. Ugly girl muncher. Ewwwwww.

[Gato_Solo]

Los lobos dormir en la noche...

[Luis G]

duermen ;)

but, aren't wolves awake in the night?

[Gato_Solo]

Solo mio...

[Aunty Em]

Buenas noches. Que tal? Aprendo espanol desde hace dos anos por una vez de semana. Pero no se me da bien porque no estudio mucho.

[whoreable]

me gusta comer la caca de perro.

[Luis G]

Buenas noches. Que tal? Aprendo espanol desde hace dos anos por una vez de semana. Pero no se me da bien porque no estudio mucho.

Pero vas bien ;)

[Aunty Em]

Gracias, pero me sorprende que me lo acuerdo el espanol. Cometa muchas faltas de ortografia, pero normalmente escrivo con boligrafo no ordenador.

Aprendiendo espanol porque es el segundo idioma del mundo. Es muy util para trabajo y me lo divierto. :)

Cuando tenia catorce anos vive en Gibraltar y hable un poco de espanol, estaba facil pero ahora es duro!

[Aunty Em]

There's one "weird" letter in spanish:

ñ = alt 164
Ñ = alt 165


On my keyboard English (British) - English (US) is different

alt 164 = € and 165 does nothing.

I have added Spanish (traditional) to my keyboard in Control Panel(CP).

So far I have found:

; = ñ
# = ç
shift + = = ¿
shift + - = ?
= = ¡
! is in it's usual place

I'm still looking for the accented vowels. Castillian - which I'm learning still uses these accents.

All the symbols they have replaced have moved to other keys but you'll have to find those for yourself or I'll be here for hours.

You can switch between languages by enabling left shift + alt(default) or ctrl + shift (easier for me) in control panel. Plus an icon in sytray to remind you which language is enabled.

[Aunty Em]

Im Deutschland das wetter shite ist.

:headbang:

Ja, but it's worse in the UK.

Mein mutter ist deutsch. But don't ask me to speak it, verstat u mij niet, ik sprek ein klein beetje Nederlands.

[Aunty Em]

:D :headbang:

[Luis G]

on the US english keyboard you will find accents in the ' key (one key right to the ; ), press it and then press the vowel you want, it should appear "accentuated"

[Aunty Em]

on the US english keyboard you will find accents in the ' key (one key right to the ; ), press it and then press the vowel you want, it should appear "accentuated"

Gracias. That works on the British keyboard as well so long as Spanish is selected. Now perhaps I will remember where to put them because I´m always forgetting. :)


PS: I've just discovered that Word supports a Spanish spelling and Grammer checker. Of course it never occured to me before but quite logically it should. While using the Spanish keyboard and happily typing away it asked if I wanted to install that feature - so no more spelling mistakes in my homework. Brilliant! :D :D :D

[Gato_Solo]

me gusta comer la caca de perro.

Usted es muy, muy, differente...

[Jeslek]

Why is this thead sticky?

[Luis G]

Long story, too tired to tell.

[Aunty Em]

- so no more spelling mistakes in my homework. Brilliant! :D :D :D

A codicil: My spelling is getting better I'm actually begining to remember where to put the accents without help. :)

[lightstorm]

¡Hola! Soy un nuevo miembro (is that the right word?). ¿Cómo están?

[Luis G]

Muy bien, tu español es bueno, incluso acentúas las palabras :wink2:

[lightstorm]

Yes! Spanish class wasn't a complete waste of my time . . . :cool:

[Luis G]

Specially when you live in California ;) :D

[lightstorm]

I was reading a story in Spanish and I came upon these words I didn't know ?( Can somebody help me?
la fisonomía
asmejarse
el transeúnte
madrugar
solazarse
embozar
atravezar
budarse
renegar
risueño
suizo
lo inútil
ser capaz de
Any help would be greatly appreciated :)

[Jeslek]

I was reading a story in Spanish and I came upon these words I didn't know ?( Can somebody help me?
la fisonomía - appearance
asmejarse - ?
el transeúnte - passerby
madrugar - ?
solazarse - ?
embozar - ?
atravezar - ?
budarse - ?
renegar - ?
risueño - ?
suizo - Swiss
lo inútil - useless thing
ser capaz de - to be able
Any help would be greatly appreciated :)My spanish sucks.

[Aunty Em]

asemejarse - to resemble

embozar - to muzzle
madrugar - to get up early
atravezar - to cross or to go through
risueño - laughing/smiling(always)
renegar - to deny

Verbs with 'se' (e.g. budarse) on the end are reflexsive verbs and mean to do something to oneself and are preceded by the personal pronoun e.g. me levanto a las siete(I get up at 7 - literally - I get myself up at 7). Drop the 'se' and look for the infinitive, or try conjugating the verb e.g. me budo (budarse) or you could try putting the whole sentence into an online translator e.g.

http://www.freetranslation.com/ - you may have more luck.

I'm trying to find an online dictionary because I need it too for my homework. :)

Found this one: http://www.spanishdict.com/

[Luis G]

la fisonomía - physonomy??
asmejarse - i assume this is "asemejarse" which is "to be like"
el transeúnte - a walker
madrugar - to get up early in the morning
solazarse - to have a distraction
embozar - to cover the low part of your face
atravezar - to get through
budarse - wtf??, maybe it is "burlarse" which means "to laugh at"
renegar - to deny again
risueño - to have that kind of "smile" in your face
suizo - swiss
lo inútil - the unusable, the pointless, the non-workable
ser capaz de - be capable of

To be honest, i didn't know the meaning of solazarse and embozar and i have never ever heard that words before.

[lightstorm]

Wow great! t :) Thanks alot!
I really need to buy a complete Spanish dictionary instead of using those "pocket" ones all the time.

[BlurOfSerenity]

Ich habe Käse gern :swing:

[Luis G]

:P

[Gato_Solo]

I've never had a formal class in Spanish. I picked all mine up from the call`e. ;)