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fury
4/16/02, 04:41pm
Put in your official nominations for new moderators here. Self-nominations are fine.

We need a general idea of who wants to run for moderatorship.

I think there have already been some nominations in other threads for the following:

MitchSchaft
outside looking in
Justintime (already a mod)

If I missed any, please make your nominations in this thread. ;)

Guest
4/16/02, 05:36pm
I believe Krusty wants to be considered. I feel that I must nominate him because I may not have came back if he hadn't asked me to in chat.

sbcanada
4/16/02, 06:49pm
You hired Justintime? Man, I leave for a couple hours and this whole place is turned upside down... new mods, new forums... I better get to work.. :D

I thought we're sposed to vote in new mods?

MitchSchaft
4/16/02, 06:50pm
I would love to be apart of the moderator's group, fellas:).

sbcanada
4/16/02, 06:55pm
Well just go plead with fury, he seems to be appointing mods by the crowd lately.. ;) :D

fury
4/16/02, 07:45pm
I think we all know how a vote for Justintime would've went. I never noticed any opposition about the idea of him being a mod before, if that is not the case then I need to know.

There's no rational way for me to explain going back on our word that future moderators would be voted in, I can only apologize for it. So, I'm sorry.

Guest
4/16/02, 07:56pm
I had a lot to do with it too. I asked both Sam and Fury to make him a mod. He is posting over here like crazy, and I recommended him because he had so much enthusiasm about the site that it was contagious.

Leslie
4/16/02, 08:22pm
Since my last nomination is moot, now, I'd like to offer another, if I may, I think that ris would also be fantastic for many of the same reasons I gave for nominating justintime, regular attendance on boards, never has posted anything inappropriate and takes responsibility for himself, offers assistance to all who ask and sticks with the threads until issue solved, and as well, ris is very well liked and respected. That's my new nomination and vote. :)

outside looking in
4/16/02, 08:52pm
Originally posted by MitchSchaft
I would love to be apart of the moderator's group, fellas:).


Is that supposed to be a part of, or apart from?

:D

krusty
4/16/02, 09:03pm
Once again I see words written not being backed up by admin.

If we are to nominate the new mods, let it happen that way.

A lot of people will get pissed off otherwise.

outside looking in
4/16/02, 09:06pm
Well, Mitchschaft has already self-nominated himeself, so to relieve the admins from having nominated anyone on that list, I, the undersigned, do herby officially request that my username be added to the "bag of stinky names of people that for some reason want to moderate a forum." :D

OSLI

:D

Leslie
4/16/02, 09:09pm
Krusty, was this the kind of request you were looking for?

Originally posted by fury
Put in your official nominations for new moderators here. Self-nominations are fine.

We need a general idea of who wants to run for moderatorship.

I think there have already been some nominations in other threads for the following:

MitchSchaft
outside looking in
Justintime (already a mod)

If I missed any, please make your nominations in this thread. ;)

Guest
4/16/02, 09:11pm
It's not exactly true, Krusty. sbcanada and I were over at HWC doing our thing trying to talk people into putting the board together. JustinTime got here very early and started posting like crazy. He deserved to be a mod. He has shown that he loves this site and wants to do anything he can to get it going.

I recommend: L. Summerton, MitchSchaft, outside looking in , and Krusty.

krusty
4/16/02, 09:12pm
Yeah I saw that... What I mean is, they'll ask us for a vote and then do something else.

Leslie
4/16/02, 09:13pm
Whoops, I reread the thread, and I have realized that krusty was referring to the higher up stuff, not mine and mitchshafts posts, please accept my apologies krusty and if this can be deleted, please do - I don't want to cause any bad blood. Sorry again, krusty, I misunderstood what you were getting at. :)

krusty
4/16/02, 09:19pm
Don't sweat the small stuff Summer... no worries.

samcurry
4/16/02, 09:23pm
hands krusty a paxil and sends him to anger managment class. I think fury did exactly what you are saying we wont. relax and take a chill pill. :D

Leslie
4/16/02, 09:24pm
Glad to hear it :D, after the last couple of days, I'm not sure what the small stuff is anymore ?( :)

sbcanada
4/16/02, 09:27pm
Originally posted by s4
It's not exactly true, Krusty. sbcanada and I were over at HWC doing our thing trying to talk people into putting the board together. JustinTime got here very early and started posting like crazy. He deserved to be a mod. He has shown that he loves this site and wants to do anything he can to get it going.

I recommend: L. Summerton, MitchSchaft, outside looking in , and Krusty.


I was the first non-admin member to sign up. THEN Justintime came along and me and him bitched back and forth for hours... :D

Justintime does deserve a mod spot, and I have no complaints about it. But, now that we have enough mods for the time being, I think there should be no more mods added until we get more traffic and more forums. THEN, when we need more mods a list should be made of possible candidates and a vote should be taken.

ris
4/16/02, 09:29pm
i'd like to accept the nomination from l.summerton - anything i can do to help on these boards :)

sbcanada
4/16/02, 09:29pm
I nominate Mitchschaft, outside looking in, and ris for future considerations. :cool:

krusty
4/16/02, 09:29pm
Originally posted by samcurry
hands krusty a paxil and sends him to anger managment class. I think fury did exactly what you are saying we wont. relax and take a chill pill. :D


Go play anal cavity inspection with your dog. Sam

I am perfectly relaxed, relaxation to me is watching you screw up.

samcurry
4/16/02, 09:31pm
i think you should take out the woman part of your sig and insert warren :D

krusty
4/16/02, 09:34pm
nah... it wouldn't make sense sammy... get real.

Justintime
4/16/02, 09:37pm
Originally posted by sbcanada
I nominate Mitchschaft, outside looking in, and ris for future considerations. :cool:

Ditto :cool:

Would also like to nominate L.Summerton as well :)

Leslie
4/16/02, 09:44pm
Thanks for the nod, s4, it's always nice to be appreciated. :)

sbcanada
4/16/02, 09:52pm
Make mine a -1 for L. Summerton. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

Kruz
4/16/02, 09:52pm
I second the nomination for Leslie.. she has a cool and even temperament, and is well versed on a great many subjects… :)

outside looking in
4/16/02, 09:59pm
Originally posted by sbcanada
I was the first non-admin member to sign up. THEN Justintime came along and me and him bitched back and forth for hours... :D

That explains the high spam count for the two of you then. :D

THEN, when we need more mods a list should be made of possible candidates and a vote should be taken.


Of course, there are forums now with no mods, aside from yourself and s4.

sbcanada
4/16/02, 10:01pm
Besides, girls can't be moderators! http://www.boomspeed.com/sbcanada/fire.gif ;)

sbcanada
4/16/02, 10:03pm
I guess someone should be appointed to take care of those new rooms, eh?

outside looking in
4/16/02, 10:12pm
Originally posted by sbcanada
I guess someone should be appointed to take care of those new rooms, eh?


For shame. Appointed is not the magic word. ;)

sbcanada
4/16/02, 10:34pm
Maybe you like "assigned" better? :D

outside looking in
4/16/02, 10:41pm
:grumpy:

;)

sbcanada
4/16/02, 11:55pm
I meant that one of our mods should officially be assigned as moderator for those rooms.

outside looking in
4/17/02, 12:42am
Oh.

I like the new gavel.

sbcanada
4/17/02, 01:20am
Originally posted by outside looking in
Oh.

I like the new gavel.


I got it just to impress you... ;) :P

outside looking in
4/17/02, 12:43pm
Is there any planned length of time before some sort of "election?"

greenfreak
4/17/02, 02:06pm
As my first post, I would like to cast my vote for lady Leslie Summerton. And no, I'm not voting just cause she's a CHICK. (although it does help :) ) I'm afraid I really don't know anyone else that well, so as for now, that is all.

By the way, HI EVERYONE! *waves* :D

fury
4/17/02, 02:24pm
No set length of time, just waiting for enough nominations.

Well, let's see about the nominations so far...

MitchSchaft
OSLI
krusty
ris
L. Summerton

We need at least one mod right now for the Real World and one for Entertainment, so should we begin the first vote for new moderators of each forum at the same time or one after another?

Also, I'd like to say that if someone doesn't get voted in for moderator now, they are still eligible for future votes... in other words, a renomination won't be necessary.

BUT, if the person who gets voted in decides that he/she wants to run for moderatorship of another forum, do you think they can do that? I'm really not sure whether it should be allowed, as it doesn't seem fair to whomever the other candidates may be if someone was voted to mod one forum, then they run again and get voted in for another forum.

samcurry
4/17/02, 02:26pm
i think they should only have 1 forum for moderation

Guest
4/17/02, 02:41pm
You forgot outside looking in. I also think hardtellin' wanted to be a mod.

fury
4/17/02, 03:03pm
I mentioned OSLI - OutSide Looking In :D

Add hardtellin to the list then, but I didn't see him make his nomination in here. ?(

outside looking in
4/17/02, 03:45pm
I would think that the fairest way would probably be to decide how many total moderators are needed. Then take a vote for all the moderator candidates as a whole.

Say you need six moderators at the moment... then the six nominees receiving the most votes would become moderators. After that, who moderates which forum could be decided, either by who wants it, working it out internally, another vote, admins putting the smack on, whatever.

Seems the best way... if you wanted to moderate a forum that had 10 nominees, and could only run for one forum, then that weights the votes depending on how "popular" a forum is.

My buck-three-ninety-eight anyway. ;)

outside looking in
4/17/02, 03:56pm
Of course, in voting theory there are other methods that work better than a "one vote" method (though I don't remember the names of those methods). Might be useful in this case, cause if all candidates were lumped together, and each member voted on their favorite, it is very possible that only four or five candidates would even receive votes. Then how would you fill the other spots?

There are two good alternatives. One is to allow members to rank the candidates from best to worst, and total the score for each candidate. This guarantees that all candidates receive at least some points, so ranking the totals to pick the top six or whatever will be easy.

The second alternative is to allow members to assign a "value" for each candidate, and can score as many candidates alike as he/she wishes. For example... greenfreak only knows Leslie, so it's likely she would put Leslie in the top spot. How would she assign the rest of the candidates if she didn't know anything about them but was forced to put them in order? It would be easier for her to just give Leslie a "10" and each of the other candidates a "1" (or "5", or whatever she wished). Then total the scores as before, and pick the top however many are needed. This, IMO, is the fairest and most accurate representation of "what the people want".

So, I'd suggest the above scoring method... but it would cause problems with how to collect scores. The BB's poll doesn't allow such a complex voting scheme, so it would have to be done through emails, or just out in the open voting (that probably isn't a good idea... the out in the open part).

A compromise might be if this BB has an option to allow members to vote for more than one choice. That way, each candidate could at least be scored a 1 or 0, and though not the best method by any means, it is better than only getting one vote and having to decide where to place it. I don't remember any option like that when I did my poll though, so that might be out.

Oh well... there's my two-bucks-three-ninety-nine. ;)

sbcanada
4/17/02, 03:56pm
If we need two more mods right now, I say we take a vote on the list of candidates and the top two who receive the most votes get the job. I think they could talk with each other to see who will moderate which forum... If mods ever want to move to a different forum, then they should need to "trade" with someone else, with the approval of both parties.

outside looking in
4/17/02, 04:19pm
I guess the first question to get out of the way is "how many moderators are needed right now?"

fury
4/17/02, 04:53pm
An automatic scoring tally would be hard to achieve on short notice, so it would have to be done through email. That is a good idea, and while it may prove a bit more difficult to keep record of the votes without an automatic tally, it could produce a more accurate result on which people would be best preferred as moderators by the people.

Right now, there are only three moderators immediately necessary, one for each of the forums without moderators, and they need to be added in as soon as possible so that the forum will look completed (for lack of a better word... ?(). When more candidates are nominated, more votes will be held.

I think I will have to agree with and favor OSLI's idea of picking the top candidates out of a single poll and having them decide which forum they want to moderate, it sounds like the fairest and easiest method by far, and much less confusing than making a vote for each individual forum. Does anybody agree or disagree with that? Or does the scoring system sound like the best way?

outside looking in
4/17/02, 04:57pm
Then the next logica question is "are there currently enough candidates for a three position vote?"

After that would be "what is the scoring scale... 1 to 5, 1 to 10?" I think 1 to 5 would probably suffice.

When those questions are settled, you can work out the logistics of who receives and tallies scores.

sbcanada
4/17/02, 04:57pm
Originally posted by fury

I think I will have to agree with and favor OSLI's idea of picking the top candidates out of a single poll and having them decide which forum they want to moderate

I second that.

Q
4/17/02, 05:05pm
Will I be allowed to snoop around in the mod forum, even if I'm not a mod? Because I would really like that. Also, it will help keep the report more accurate, since I won't have to make up as much shit. :D

sbcanada
4/17/02, 05:11pm
What mod forum? ?(

Q
4/17/02, 05:13pm
*snickers* :D

sbcanada
4/17/02, 05:14pm
Good idea though... we'll have to make one of those, where only mods and admin can get in... :D

outside looking in
4/17/02, 05:18pm
Or... things could be discussed openly in this forum.

I've seen it done both ways on different forums.

sbcanada
4/17/02, 05:22pm
If we did it that way, we wouldn't be able to make fun of people behind their backs... :D

Q
4/17/02, 05:43pm
Originally posted by sbcanada
Good idea though... we'll have to make one of those, where only mods and admin can get in... :D
...and ME! :D

sbcanada
4/17/02, 05:54pm
Why you?

Q
4/17/02, 05:57pm
Well, I asked nicely, for one thing.

And I am in charge of the report :headbang:

sbcanada
4/17/02, 06:01pm
What the hell is "the report"? ;)

Q
4/17/02, 06:04pm
I'm afraid that information is classified. :P

outside looking in
4/17/02, 06:06pm
Originally posted by *Q*
I'm afraid that information is classified. :P


LOL! :D You're going to give sb a complex now! :D

Q
4/17/02, 06:10pm
Yeah, I can tell he's starting to get all twitchy :D

sbcanada
4/17/02, 06:15pm
:mad2:

Q
4/17/02, 06:17pm
Careful with that teeth smilie. You don't want to find out what the report is the hard way. ;)

sbcanada
4/17/02, 06:19pm
So the report is like the big gossip article that you put together about members? ?(

outside looking in
4/17/02, 06:19pm
AAHAHAHH! :D

sbcanada
4/17/02, 06:21pm
What the hell is so god damn funny? :grumpy:

Q
4/17/02, 06:23pm
ooh look! he didn't use that teeth smilie again, did he? :D

sbcanada
4/17/02, 06:24pm
:mad: :mad2: :mad: :mad2: :mad: :mad2:

What is the report?

Q
4/17/02, 06:31pm
Perhaps in the privacy of a moderators forum I may be persuaded to divulge that. :cool:

sbcanada
4/17/02, 06:39pm
Send me a private message... ;)

Q
4/17/02, 06:43pm
And wreck my chances of getting in that mod forum? Nuh uh :P

Gonz
4/17/02, 06:55pm
I know all about "the report", hell I fill half of it.:D

sbcanada
4/17/02, 06:58pm
We don't allow old lady gossipers in the mod forum, if we had one. Sorry *Q*. You'll have to take your WRINKLY OLD ASS to the Lunatic Lounge, where you belong. :mad: :mad2: :D

Guest
4/17/02, 08:32pm
I am beginning to like you sbcanada. :D

Guest
4/17/02, 08:46pm
I have a suggestion on how to do the election. Have one thread specifically for each forum. Set a time limit how long the voting will last. Allow each person to vote only once.

Example: Who do you want as moderator of The Real World forum?

option1: canadate A
option2: canadate B
option3: canadate C
option4: canadate D

The person with the most votes in the poll gets to be the mod of The Real World forum.

Next start a thread for the other two forums one at a time until we have run 3 seperate elections for each of the forums.

outside looking in
4/17/02, 08:52pm
No offense s4, but I'm not too fond of that.

What if I didn't want to moderate the first forum a vote was taken in? Should I pass on that chance, and hope that the one I am interested in works out? Other candidates will be thinking the same thing.
Perhaps they would just try for every forum to better their chances of becoming a mod, and then swap and trade to sort things out later... but how would that be any different than just electing them as a group and letting them decide how to assign forums?

Besides, it still has the "one position, one vote" method that, IMO, is just not that great of a way to do it.

(BTW, yes, I think our popular vote for Presidential elections is completely screwed, and we should redo the system ;))

Guest
4/17/02, 08:57pm
It would be an uncomplicated way of doing it though. What if you elect two mods that want to fight over the same forum? I think if someone isn't interested in being a mod of that forum then they shouldn't try for it. There can be only one winner so why elect several people at once?

Leslie
4/17/02, 09:00pm
Originally posted by s4
I have a suggestion on how to do the election. Have one thread specifically for each forum. Set a time limit how long the voting will last. Allow each person to vote only once.

Example: Who do you want as moderator of The Real World forum?

option1: canadate A
option2: canadate B
option3: canadate C
option4: canadate D

The person with the most votes in the poll gets to be the mod of The Real World forum.

Next start a thread for the other two forums one at a time until we have run 3 seperate elections for each of the forums.


I agree, I think it is simple to administrate and fair.

Guest
4/17/02, 09:03pm
I also think that if someone isn't elected the first time that they should be allowed to try for another forum as long as they are interested in what it is about.

Leslie
4/17/02, 09:08pm
Also fair.

fury
4/17/02, 09:43pm
s4, what you suggested would be no different than the first idea we came up with, which, as you know, has already met some opposition in this thread. But then the other ideas have met some form of opposition as well.

It seems like just deciding on how to vote is going to take forever. *sigh* :(

Leslie
4/17/02, 09:50pm
Maybe the senate should take this debate in camera and let we the people know when it's decided what the electoral laws are and which day is voting day.

outside looking in
4/17/02, 10:00pm
Originally posted by s4
It would be an uncomplicated way of doing it though. What if you elect two mods that want to fight over the same forum? I think if someone isn't interested in being a mod of that forum then they shouldn't try for it. There can be only one winner so why elect several people at once?


I think you missed my point, but oh well. Just seems simpler to vote for mods as a group, instead of having several elections spread out over several forums, with candidates trying to figure out whether to run for a forum or not. Once the mods are elected, they can take a vote withing themselves to assign forums if there is any conflict.

But, it's just my suggestion. Add it to the others, let's pick a way to do it, and get the show on the road!

;)

squeeks
4/17/02, 10:23pm
3 pages already?

fuckit

just make the first 10 people registered the mods

MuFu
4/17/02, 10:27pm
I nominate Hoyle and glussier. ;)

MuFu.

samcurry
4/17/02, 10:39pm
mufu, dude i dont think they have showed up yet:)

Justintime
4/17/02, 10:40pm
Originally posted by MuFu
I nominate Hoyle and glussier. ;)

MuFu.


asskisser :D :P :D

Guest
4/17/02, 11:16pm
The method you choose is up to you. The way I suggested will take longer, but will be fair.

If someone else already suggested what I said then I apologize because I didn't see it. It's a little hard to keep up with all the threads.

Gonz
4/17/02, 11:26pm
Just look at the damned US Congress for inspiration. First, go to a sub-committee to see if the committe would find that person objectionable. Once you pass the mod in the sub-committee, then send the mod to the full committee for arguments. Should the to-be mod pass muster & a 2/3's vote in committee then send their name to the floor. Pro's & con's can be argued by the full moderating panel. Upon majority vote +1 by mods, they then go to the supermods. Tyhe supermods kick around the idea for awhile, taking breaks to fill their coffers by lobbyists. Upon a full vote by the supermods it can then be sent to the admin(s) for final approval. If the admin says no, start over but now the votes must be 3/5 the mods & 3/4 the supermods.


Or just ask if anybody thinks the person would suck. :P

MuFu
4/17/02, 11:27pm
Originally posted by samcurry
mufu, dude i dont think they have showed up yet:)


I know, I just want to make sure when they do, they know that they have to set an example and can't go wild; cussing and swearing like a couple of teenage boys and posting pornographic material after years of containing themselves at HWC. ;)

MuFu.

samcurry
4/17/02, 11:29pm
:D :D :D :D :D

outside looking in
4/17/02, 11:37pm
Originally posted by MuFu
I know, I just want to make sure when they do, they know that they have to set an example and can't go wild; cussive and swearing like a couple of teenage boys and posting pornographic material after years of containing themselves at HWC. ;)

MuFu.


Lol. :D I'm sure they'll appreciate that. ;)

nodnod
4/18/02, 01:54am
I think that Justintime was a good decision.
I also vote for L. In HWC right from the start she tried helping everyone she could (even as a newbie). Not only that, we would have a token chick as a mod ;) That way no feminen activist groups will say the board is sexist.

sbcanada
4/18/02, 02:15am
Feminists are the worst! :D

outside looking in
4/18/02, 02:21am
Whatever we're going to do, I hope it gets done before fury has to take off for the camping thing.

Guest
4/18/02, 02:28am
If you wanted to get two mods for each forum, you could take the two top vote getters from each vote that I suggested.

Don't worry sbcanada has enough energy to carry the board for a while. He's wearing me out. :D

sbcanada
4/18/02, 02:52am
I'll look after the joint while fury is away... ;)

MuFu
4/18/02, 02:55am
You mean you'll look after a joint while fury is away. I know you Canadians and your bud... :headbang:

MuFu

sbcanada
4/18/02, 02:57am
:D :P

outside looking in
4/18/02, 03:07am
LOL. :)