Stem Cell Research

[$ponge]

What are your thoughts on stem cell research.

[Bink]

The Victorian premiere recently gave stem cell research the thumbs up, and I think it's about time too. So much can be achieved from it and so many problems potentially solved.

[unclehobart]

Its the next building block towards curing a bushel of diseases... im all for it.

[Leslie]

Originally posted by unclehobart
Its the next building block towards curing a bushel of diseases... im all for it.

Full agreement here.

[sbcanada]

It all depends where they get the stem cells! If they are getting them from fetus', then no way. It only encourages abortion.

[$ponge]

so you think it is ethical to harvist stem cells.

[sbcanada]

?(

Where else would you get them? I am against harvesting them from fetus'.

[Gato_Solo]

Actually, I believe they can grow stem cells in the lab now, thus sparing any unborn from murder. If the cells are grown in a lab, I see no problem with it.

[sbcanada]

Well yeah, if they grow them in a lab, go for it.

[$ponge]

so it was wrong to start out with but now that its done we might as well?

[Justintime]

Originally posted by Gato_Solo
Actually, I believe they can grow stem cells in the lab now, thus sparing any unborn from murder. If the cells are grown in a lab, I see no problem with it.


ditto

[ihcra]

but they came from somewhere and are gentically identical to some individual either living or dead.

the un is ruling shortly over the continued use of cancer cells taken from a black woman in the 30s that are still being grown all over the world to this day. she died 70 years ago and her family want her cells to be stopped

[$ponge]

what exactly do you think they grow them in the lab from, Pumpkin seeds?

[$ponge]

Stem cells can be extracted from adult tissue,but they are difficult to remove and appear to be limited in usefulness.
Typically, stem cells are extracted from very young human embryos. Extracting its stem cells kills the embryo.

[sunk]

nifty, scary yet nifty :headbang:

[Gato_Solo]

If the cells already exist, and are grown in a lab, I STILL see no problem with it. I don't advocate abortion except in cases of rape and incest, and I had no control over the cells that are already there. Do you think I'd advocate throwing away something so useful just because of it's lineage? The original cells, no matter how they came to be, are being used for something that we, as a society, need. As long as no new cells are gathered that way...Go for the cures.

[unclehobart]

I think a goo dchunk of stem cells come from the umbilicus. The baby isnt going to miss that too much.

[outside looking in]

I support stem cell research. If the cells already exist, then use them. If they could be harvested from living embryos without destroying them, then that would be fine if the parents were willing.

If stem cell research was not made so difficult by the government, stem cells would not be in short supply, and there would be no cases of doctors encouraging abortion just to harvest the cells.

[ol' man]

Maybe some day we can get a embryo baby burger!

I remember in Zoology we had a baby skull about the size of a grapefruit. It was very new, about maybe 5 years old at the most(The baby was not 5 years old the skull was cause obviously the baby was dead). I asked the proffesor where they got the skull and if there was market for that type of thing. Just how in the world does one get a baby skull in the first shitten place. I would say the baby was about 6 months old!

I was wondering if the baby signed a donor card in the womb!

:rolleyes:

I HATE DEMOCRATS AND THE " MY PUSSY IS MY BUISNESS PEOPLE." I absolutely hate 'em.

[MitchSchaft]

I'll have to agree with that one, too. Besides the fact that I don't care for Democrats.

[outside looking in]

The parents agreed. :rolleyes:

[outside looking in]

Or, on second thought, maybe it was either an orphan baby that had medical problems after birth and died in the hospital... or an aborted fetus? :eek: :eek:

[$ponge]

The potential of stem cell technology is to make the undifferentiated, non-specific stem cells grow into specific cell types that can be used to replace damaged cells that occur in many diseases. For example, the hope is that one day it may be possible to grow brain nerve cells to replace those destroyed by Parkinson's disease

Does that mean that if they give a normal brain stem cell treatment one could become a superbrain controling others only with the will of his mind :eek:
:conehead:

[ihcra]

Originally posted by Gato_Solo
I don't advocate abortion except in cases of rape and incest



why the distinction?

[Nixy]

I support stemcell research. As long as no one is dying for them to do this then I see no problem with it. If the baby is aborted anyway it's stemcells may as well be put to good use.

Also, with regards to the woman's cancer cells i don't understand why the family is so upset. If the growth of these cancer cells are helping in Cancer reseach then they may be helping other people who have cancer have a greater chance of survival. I think it's greedy for the family to want them destroyed. It's not hurting anybody. Some people refuse to help others. When my dad was sick he agreed to be on a test drug to help them do reseach and even after he died my mom allowed them to perform an autopsy incase they might find something that would help the medical profession treat anybody in the future who ends up with the same comdition and maybe save THEIR life. Some people though figure their loved one is dead so no one else matters. Yeah it hurts when someone you love dies but why woudln't you want to help and maybe prevent someone in the future form dying? I'm not talking about donatining your body to reseach or anything, I'm just talking about allowing cancer cells to be grown in a lab or having a post-mortum done! If more people helped contribute then maybe so many people wouldn't have died and maybe my dad would be here today!

So I say if noone is dying for them to retrieve the stemcells then there's nothing wrong with it. Anybody who feels there is I am not trying to force you to change your mind just stop for a second and think how you woudl feel if one day someone you loved needed a stemcell transplant to save their life. How would you feel about them then?

[Gato_Solo]

Simple. Any pregnancy which occurs through those means (incest or rape) is not consensual sex, therefore the 'victim' of such sex should not be legally forced to carry to term. All other pregnancies are of a consensual nature, thus the two parties agreed somewhat to the consequences.

Before you folks start flaming, please realize that I used the word consequences because I couldn't think of another word that actually fit the circumstances.

[outside looking in]

Why can't incest be consensual? Or am I having a brain fart this morning...

[Gato_Solo]

In most cases incest is not consensual. Societal taboo. ;)

[outside looking in]

lol. I am from Mississippi though... such societal norms and taboos haven't filtered down here yet! :D