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daPirate
10/17/02, 01:46am
for those of you that program, what is your favourite language? mine is java. yes i know its not the fastest, but it is easy and it does run on multiple platforms. and we use it at university for most part. :)

HeXpŁŘi±
10/17/02, 01:54am
Logo far and away. :D But if i was forced to take a class it would be Pearl.

Jeslek
10/17/02, 09:50am
C++ and C#

whoreable
10/17/02, 11:26am
nerds.

Professur
10/17/02, 02:30pm
COBOL. Pascal a close second.

Luis G
10/17/02, 04:42pm
Any variant of the C language, even thou, i haven't try C#

Luis G
10/17/02, 04:43pm
C++ and C#

:eek6:
Correct me if i'm mistaken, but i remember you don't know how to program in C++.

Jeslek
10/17/02, 04:55pm
C++ and C#

:eek6:
Correct me if i'm mistaken, but i remember you don't know how to program in C++.Yes I do, I don't remember stating otherwise... I don't do it for a job though. Nor at university.

Luis G
10/17/02, 05:04pm
you didn't stated otherwise, but i remember you asked me to help a girl with C++. I assumed you didn't know the C++ language.

Gato_Solo
10/17/02, 06:02pm
COBOL. Pascal a close second.

COBOL sucks ass. I hated it back when I learned it, and I hate it now. Wordy and unweildy, it used to drive me nuts...and all just to read a simple data file. :grumpy: I do have a small liking towards FORTRAN, though. Also Pascal and, yes, BASIC. :P

Jeslek
10/17/02, 06:55pm
must. not. look. at. screen. -- too. many. old. people.

Gato_Solo
10/17/02, 06:59pm
You know what the problem with todays, younger programmers is? They are lazy. Sloppy code abounds, and there is no quality control anymore. Don't believe me? Two words...Microsoft XP.

How many of us bought the latest and greatest only to discover that it was full of bad code and/or required patches to work right out of the box? To make matters worse, 9 times out of 10, you can't take it back for a refund. So go ahead...make fun of us old folks, LL. We can take it, and we can fix it, and then we can hand it right back to ya'. ;)

unclehobart
10/17/02, 07:02pm
BASIC ... gotta love the classics.

Jeslek
10/17/02, 07:02pm
You know what the problem with todays, younger programmers is? They are lazy. Sloppy code abounds, and there is no quality control anymore. Don't believe me? Two words...Microsoft XP.

How many of us bought the latest and greatest only to discover that it was full of bad code and/or required patches to work right out of the box? To make matters worse, 9 times out of 10, you can't take it back for a refund. So go ahead...make fun of us old folks, LL. We can take it, and we can fix it, and then we can hand it right back to ya'. ;)Oh I'm not making fun of you. :D I do admire all that shit you did in 3 lines of code and 20 bytes of memory. Its just that saying Cobol and Fortran is your favorite language makes me think... you're old. Which isn't bad though :P You have got more experience. :D

BUTTTT, younger people also created Linux... :P

Luis G
10/17/02, 07:03pm
hey, i'm young and my code is top quality.

Gato_Solo
10/17/02, 07:06pm
You know what the problem with todays, younger programmers is? They are lazy. Sloppy code abounds, and there is no quality control anymore. Don't believe me? Two words...Microsoft XP.

How many of us bought the latest and greatest only to discover that it was full of bad code and/or required patches to work right out of the box? To make matters worse, 9 times out of 10, you can't take it back for a refund. So go ahead...make fun of us old folks, LL. We can take it, and we can fix it, and then we can hand it right back to ya'. ;)Oh I'm not making fun of you. :D I do admire all that shit you did in 3 lines of code and 20 bytes of memory. Its just that saying Cobol and Fortran is your favorite language makes me think... you're old. Which isn't bad though :P You have got more experience. :D

BUTTTT, younger people also created Linux... :P

Linux is the 'bastard' offspring of UNIX. It's nice, tight code, but it's still not that original. Try coding in LISP. You'll be pulling your hair out. ;)

Luis...You should know better than to show your code to strangers...:D

HeXpŁŘi±
10/17/02, 07:09pm
You know what the problem with todays, younger programmers is? They are lazy. Sloppy code abounds, and there is no quality control anymore. Don't believe me? Two words...Microsoft XP.
The real problem with todays coders is that they are under pressure to build it Now
and they never have the time to perfect the software for any given hardware!
Microsofts programmers have to do this and ensure that their software remains at a lower level than anything else that might be installed.

Jeslek
10/17/02, 07:10pm
We've done scheme (variant of lisp), and it isn't fun.

Luis G
10/17/02, 07:11pm
i'm selfish, i don't show my codes :D

on the UNIX/Linux stuff, a while ago there was this problems between all the UNIX distros, so they created the POSIX specification, the only thing Linux do is to abide to such specification, making it just another "distro" of a UNIX OS.

Gato_Solo
10/17/02, 07:13pm
You know what the problem with todays, younger programmers is? They are lazy. Sloppy code abounds, and there is no quality control anymore. Don't believe me? Two words...Microsoft XP.
The real problem with todays coders is that they are under pressure to build it Now
and they never have the time to perfect the software for any given hardware!
Microsofts programmers have to do this and ensure that their software remains at a lower level than anything else that might be installed.

That would make sense except for one thing...Most, if not all, of M$'s products miss their deadline anyway. As for remaining at a 'lower level', I'll give you that one, but I still think they could do it right, rushed or not, if they actually cared.

HeXpŁŘi±
10/17/02, 07:24pm
What product doesn't miss a deadline these days? I know Microshaft programmers who've quit simply because they didn't have the option to care(in a nutshell). Though I make no excuses whatsoever for microsoft.

PT
10/17/02, 07:26pm
I've used C++, but I would have to say my favorite to program in is still basic. Regular old basic, not visual basic, althought that's ok too.

PT
10/17/02, 07:27pm
Oh, I had to learn COBOL too, that's some fucked up shit there.

unclehobart
10/17/02, 07:31pm
10 print'the computer is crazy'
20 goto10

PT
10/17/02, 07:33pm
True, it's simple as fuck, but it's also rather effective for some purposes.

Luis G
10/17/02, 07:51pm
goto statment considered harmful........i still remember that article written by a mathmatician. without GOTO statments, basic is useless.

PT
10/17/02, 07:53pm
You can still call subroutines without using a goto statement. I can't say I ever wrote a program without one, but I think it could be done.

Luis G
10/17/02, 07:56pm
:eek2: i've never seen a program written in "the old basic days" that has subroutines.

PT
10/17/02, 07:57pm
Oh yes, they had subroutines too. I'd have to do some digging to find it, but it was there.

Professur
10/17/02, 10:23pm
I learned to program in the 'modular' days. Everything I coded was in subs.


COBOL might suck ass, but there was nothing better for handling large databases. It would take 4 pages of code to add 2 + 2, but it only took 5 to handle a 10,000 record dbase. We even coded a game using COBOL. It sucked, bigtime, but we did it.

AlladinSane
10/18/02, 05:46am
:eek2: i've never seen a program written in "the old basic days" that has subroutines.
That was the GOSUB statement. Couldn't do it with conditions, though. In the "old basic" only repetition statement was FOR...NEXT. DO...WHILE type repetitions couldn't be made without GOTO's in fact.

equinoxe3d
10/18/02, 11:13pm
My fave is Lingo (Macromedia Director scripting language), it isn't a true "hardcore" programming language like C++ and such, but then I'm a multimedia dev. student and not a pure programmer. The ability to do both text/point syntax code is cool, but text takes sooo much space and it's damn repetitive :D

on moveSpriteToRight me

while the locH of sprite the spriteNum of me < theStageRight then
set the locH of sprite the spriteNum of me to the locH of sprite the spriteNum of me +1
end while

end moveSpriteToRight

I'm a bit rusted though

fury
10/19/02, 12:25am
PHP :cocktail:

Jeslek
10/19/02, 12:48am
PHP :cocktail:toys

Gato_Solo
10/19/02, 10:21am
Anybody ever done anything in POISE?

Professur
10/19/02, 10:25pm
Nope. Used FOCUS tho. What a pig.