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Jeslek
9/21/02, 03:51pm
Still thinking about my brother's new machine, and I advised him to wait a few days for this motherboard to arrive:

http://www.abit-usa.com/pt_main_backat7m.html?pPRODUCT_TYPE=MotherBoard&pMODEL_NAME=AT7

Features include USB 2.0, Firewire, no legacy crap, DDR 400, 5 PCI ports, 8X AGP port, ATA 133 controller (4 channels, 8 devices), etc.

http://www.abit-usa.com/images/AT7-MAX2_pic6.jpg
ris
9/21/02, 03:54pm
i'm distrustful of boards free of legacy crap until usb is reliable. my usb scanners never seem to go properly and i'm supposed to have the same joys with my printer, k/b and mouse? :rolleyes:

on the other hand abit boards have generally got a good build reputation, i have the kt7a-r board and would probly buy another.
Luis G
9/21/02, 03:58pm
i rather connect the printer to a parallel port.....
good thing it has no serial ports, 'cause they are useless these days.
Shadowfax
9/21/02, 04:02pm
for some strange reason USB always works fine with me :)

No problems whatsoever....

The motherboard looks really good btw, LL
ris
9/21/02, 04:05pm
what board you use sf? when i upgrade i'd like full usb functionality :)
whoreable
9/21/02, 04:08pm
those max boards are quite pricey too...i would only consider it if you make use of all the onboard features. if you are gonna add an extra sound card, nic then it isn't worth it. i still use serial ports for remotes and lcds and crap.
Jeslek
9/21/02, 04:10pm
The printer he will be using is on the network. Since it has a network card, we won't throw one in. Both of use use USB keyboards and mice and our printer is also USB. None of has one bit of problem. I don't quite understand what you mean by USB being unreliable...
Shadowfax
9/21/02, 04:11pm
what board you use sf? when i upgrade i'd like full usb functionality :)


I use the ASUS A7V266...it's kinda old already, but I never had any USB problems...there's already a new version of this motherboard available :)

Before this I had the Abit BX-133 RAID, no problems either :)
ris
9/21/02, 04:18pm
might be my choice of scanners then ;)

i thought umax were quite reliable a manufacturer :rolleyes:
Luis G
9/21/02, 04:18pm
USB is unrealiable for me 'cause i'm a Linux user as well.
Shadowfax
9/21/02, 04:31pm
Mhhh...that sucks yeah...


I use Win2k Pro, so it's pretty good supported :)

Even my cam was *plug* "New HW device detected..." And voila, a new external HD recognized :D
ris
9/21/02, 04:37pm
i had a usb camera work fine with win2k, just this bleeding usn scanner keeps blinking on and off. first sign of hardware alterations and it disappears. piece of crap :(
Shadowfax
9/21/02, 04:38pm
Same with the scanner of my dad on his Compaq....need I say more? :D
ris
9/21/02, 04:40pm
hehehe, 3 usb scanners i've had and all have been dodgy.
what i need is a parallel one.... :P
Shadowfax
9/21/02, 04:42pm
Maybe USB 2 has better prospects for you :)
Jeslek
9/21/02, 04:59pm
USB is unrealiable for me 'cause i'm a Linux user as well.Well that is Linux's fault right? Don't blame USB for the incompetencies of Linux. Microsoft did it right this time. :D :P I have only one use for a linux machine, and that is to sit in a corner and give me internet. For personal use, Windows. For server use, Solaris. :D
Luis G
9/21/02, 05:01pm
who blamed USB?
Jeslek
9/21/02, 05:08pm
who blamed USB?You did. You said USB was unstable, while it is actually Linux that is unstable.
Luis G
9/21/02, 05:14pm
i said it was unrealiable FOR ME.
ris
9/21/02, 05:31pm
luis said 'it's unreliable for me because a linux user'. he laid no blame at the feet of usb. stop looking to pick issues where there are none.
Jeslek
9/21/02, 05:38pm
luis said 'it's unreliable for me because a linux user'. he laid no blame at the feet of usb. stop looking to pick issues where there are none.That sentence under proper English interpretation indicates that USB is unreliable. That is stated in the first part. Then follows a reason. The way that sentence read was he is blaming USB because Linux can't support it. Sorry about that though, I'm just fond of USB. And ris, drop it ok? I misunderstood what he meant.
Luis G
9/21/02, 05:39pm
yes, i would not depend on USB because there are not many drivers for Linux. (in other words........unreliable for me)
did i blame Linux? no.....
did i blame USB? no.....
did i blame driver availabilty? yes.....
ris
9/21/02, 05:40pm
aren't drivers made by linux geeks? blame them ;) :P
Luis G
9/21/02, 05:48pm
many Linux drivers are developed by the company that made the hardware (IBM, Realtek and nvidia are examples)
Products made by "companies in MS pocket" have driver support "of the community".
ris
9/21/02, 05:53pm
damn linux geeks slacking off, get down and make me a driver, bitch :whip:

:D :D
Luis G
9/21/02, 05:56pm
lol, you will be surprised by the ammount of available drivers.
ris
9/21/02, 05:59pm
when i get round to trying mandrake again i hope to be surprised - pleasantly surprised :)
Jeslek
9/21/02, 06:58pm
:rofl2:
Justintime
9/21/02, 07:33pm
would not depend on a solely USB mobo
Jeslek
9/21/02, 07:37pm
would not depend on a solely USB moboWell right now for the past 2 years I've used nothing but USB in my mobo, even though I have all the extra stuff... Don't see why not. Care to explain? I'd like my brother to make that decision and need some facts.
Justintime
9/21/02, 07:49pm
usb is flaky, loses itself sometimes, power problems, driver issues, i'd rather a good ps/2 mouse and keyboard, plus for me as an overclocker at times it just goes insane many a time, even when PCI, AGP busses are ok.
Jeslek
9/21/02, 08:05pm
usb is flaky, loses itself sometimes, power problems, driver issues, i'd rather a good ps/2 mouse and keyboard, plus for me as an overclocker at times it just goes insane many a time, even when PCI, AGP busses are ok.Hm if you don't overclock? I've never overclocked and I've never had problems with my USB stuff.
Gonz
9/21/02, 09:20pm
I've never overclocked...

Wussy.
Jeslek
9/21/02, 09:28pm
I've never overclocked...

Wussy.Hm, maybe you apprecite the full 5ns that its going to take to load Word. I don't really. And my Unreal Tournament runs faster from a ram drive anyways.
Justintime
9/22/02, 01:45am
usb is flaky, loses itself sometimes, power problems, driver issues, i'd rather a good ps/2 mouse and keyboard, plus for me as an overclocker at times it just goes insane many a time, even when PCI, AGP busses are ok.Hm if you don't overclock? I've never overclocked and I've never had problems with my USB stuff.

taken me out of context, i said as an overclocker, not when overclocking only. USB still has to prove itself to be as trustworthy as ps/2 to me to be the only option availabe on a board. I don't know your experience with motherboards, but am fairly confident that mine dwarfs yours immensly and its quite possible that usb can be 100% ok in many stiuations as i have alot of usb devices too, but in the BIG picture its one of the more unreliable interface on a computer in my opinion.
MitchSchaft
9/22/02, 01:53am
but am fairly confident that mine dwarfs yours immensly

lol. I like that phrase.
ris
9/22/02, 06:56am
rofl :D :D
fury
9/22/02, 11:29pm
I have no problems with my USB :headbang:

If some company wants to make a totally legacy-free motherboard, they should get on the bandwagon of PCI-X/3.0 or HyperTransport or something, the old PCI has been around since what, 486? Pentium? Also dump that old parallel ATA crap, Serial ATA is coming to replace it, and parallel ATA has been around since god knows when.
whoreable
9/23/02, 12:50pm
check out the kd7 i personaly think it looks better than the max.....and cheaper too...who needs serial atat now??