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Michelle slips and says “When we visited Barack’s home country of Kenya in Africa......”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxh1PvjP0Ug&feature=related
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(Apr. 3, 2010) — While giving a speech on AIDS and health care to a delegation of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender (GLBT) Democrats, Michelle Obama described Kenya as Obama’s “home country.”
The story about his being born in Hawaii
seems less and less likely (http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/03/faux-first-lady-admits-obama-born-in-kenya) with each passing day.
ResearchMonkey
4/04/10, 07:46pm
Regardless of Mombasa, his father was a BRITISH subject.
Did she "misspoke" a la Hillary Clinton being attacked by sniper fire, or did she commit a parapraxis?
I am inclined to the latter.
Who Will Expose Barack Obama’s Past? (http://www.dakotavoice.com/2010/04/who-will-expose-barack-obamas-past)
So, this week the video surfaces of Michelle Obama giving her speech in which she casually names Kenya as Obama’s “home country“. This has served to ramp up the debate, and I’m wondering why this video is popping up just now, when that speech was given back in 2008.
There is nothing crazy about insisting that our precious Constitution be upheld. Don’t back down or be afraid to speak your mind on this paramount subject, my friends!
Mr. Obama, where’s the birth certificate?
“Uphold the Constitution”? That is just more of your
militant racist right wing tea baggin’ hate speech,
besides you know darn well no one cares about
some silly old document from over two centuries ago.
As long as you cling to your silly Gawd
Guns and some stupid constitution you will never be able
to move forward in a progressive manner Sheesh!
ResearchMonkey
4/08/10, 02:18pm
Obama4life!
who brought the paper towels?
Apparently, the mayor of Champaign, IL doesn't believe Obama is American born.
VIDEO LINK (http://www.breitbart.tv/illinois-mayor-expresses-doubts-about-obamas-citizenship/)
Apparently, the mayor of Champaign, IL doesn't believe Obama is American born.
VIDEO LINK (http://www.breitbart.tv/illinois-mayor-expresses-doubts-about-obamas-citizenship/)
Even mayors can spew bumper-sticker slogans.
I believe John Edwards coined that phrase back in '07: (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275028,00.html)
"It is now clear that George Bush's misnamed 'War on Terror' has backfired — and is now part of the problem," Edwards told the Council of Foreign Relations in New York. "The War on Terror is a slogan designed only for politics, not a strategy to make America safe. It's a bumper sticker, not a plan."
"Every member of Congress should stand their ground on this issue and do everything in their power to block this bill," Edwards said. "Congress should send President Bush another bill funding the troops, supporting the troops, with a timetable for withdrawal. If the president vetoes that bill, send him another one."
Hey, Edwards you POS......been indicted yet? You know it's coming.
http://www.newsgroper.com/files/post_images/mission_accomplished.jpg
Thank you, George.....miss you!! :kiss:
You don’t know how lucky you are boy back in the USSR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxyISsA0Oh0)
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/04/21/ariz-house-votes-check-candidates-citizenship/
I wonder...
If this has anything to do with the campaigning, and will other states follow suit?
I think yes, and yes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WedxY61d60
An investigative report detailing the Obama eligibility controversy (http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/PDF/ROIbho20100427a.pdf)
Like the layers of an onion, one must peel back the layers of hyperbole, political agendas, accusations of racism, and other types of detractions and distractions to arrive at the very core of the argument, which is simply this: Is Barack Hussein OBAMA in fact legally eligible, under the United States Constitution, to serve as President of the United States?
There are many who claim that the issue of Obama’s eligibility is unimportant and irrelevant, or an unnecessary distraction to the “real” crises facing America, including but not limited to OBAMA’s policies and actions as President.
ResearchMonkey
5/01/10, 06:28am
The simple answer is no he is not. His family of birth, and himself, had/have loyalties other than to the United States.
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6105/1272677767137.jpg
Let us see...
Kenya ambassador admits Obama was born there.
Obama's paternal grandmother admits he was born in Kenya and she was present in the delivery room.
Obama's wife, Michelle Obama, admits his home country is in Kenya.
And now...
Tim Adams was the Chief Elections Clerk for the city and county of Honolulu, Hawaii, during the 2008 presidential election. As Chief Elections Clerk, he supervised a staff of 50 and had access to all the database to verify documents like birth certificates and birth places of campaign candidates.
On June 5, 2010, Adams was interviewed by James Edwards of the Political Cesspool radio show. Adams says unequivocally:
“Barack Obama was NOT born in Hawaii.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9fdsz1iqEE
Source (http://beforeitsnews.com/story/75/696/Explosive_Testimony:_Honolulu_Chief_Elections_Cler k_Says_Obama_NOT_Born_in_Hawaii.html)
It keeps getting interesting.
try going up to anyone on the street and asking their "nationality."
"oh, i'm irish, and dutch."
golly, there sure are a lot of irish in chicago, right?
golly, i think i'll go dig up my own tim adams... there's prolly only 9,000 people named tim adams alive in the US today.
no, dumfucks, you are american by nationality. you're using an archaic figure of speech. you're answering as to your ethnic extraction.
"barak is kenyan" just like i am swedish.
try going up to anyone on the street and asking their "nationality."
"oh, i'm irish, and dutch."
golly, there sure are a lot of irish in chicago, right?
golly, i think i'll go dig up my own tim adams... there's prolly only 9,000 people named tim adams alive in the US today.
no, dumfucks, you are american by nationality. you're using an archaic figure of speech. you're answering as to your ethnic extraction.
"barak is kenyan" just like i am swedish.
Well, the only remotely possible reference you have commented upon can only be the "Obama's wife, Michelle Obama, admits his home country is in Kenya" example as all others directly say he was born in Kenya and no one is referring to his nationality. The definition of "home country" is where one was born.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/home_country
http://www.allwords.com/word-home+country.html
i don't care what definitions you look up and post - you do understand that there is a difference between the dictionary and everyday speech, right?
it's that whole parole thing all them french scholarly guys got all excited about. it's the utterance as opposed to structure.
now, why would somebody in kenya want to suggest a closer relationship than truly exists between him and the most powerful person in the free world? hmm, nah, nothing to do with african notions of relationship and power. nothing at all.
nothing to see here.
grand cultural patterns have nothing on random conspiracy theories and little timmy's dictionary.
:horse:
i don't care what definitions you look up and post - you do understand that there is a difference between the dictionary and everyday speech, right?
it's that whole parole thing all them french scholarly guys got all excited about. it's the utterance as opposed to structure.
now, why would somebody in kenya want to suggest a closer relationship than truly exists between him and the most powerful person in the free world? hmm, nah, nothing to do with african notions of relationship and power. nothing at all.
nothing to see here.
grand cultural patterns have nothing on random conspiracy theories and little timmy's dictionary.
:horse:
You spun that quite well. Be that as it may, how do you explain away the rest and the fact that Obama sealed his birth certificate?
i think it was the state of hawaii that sealed the berf cert. probably sick of moronic inquiries.
if i was subjected to the level of scrutiny that you are subjecting obama to, i might not be eligible to be president either. neither would you.
maybe a freak like ORLY TAINT can save this inquiry.
i think it was the state of hawaii that sealed the berf cert. probably sick of moronic inquiries.
if i was subjected to the level of scrutiny that you are subjecting obama to, i might not be eligible to be president either. neither would you.
maybe a freak like ORLY TAINT can save this inquiry.
The state did seal it. (http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=79174) Whether or not Obama played a hand in that is unclear but probable since he refuses to disclose the original. McCain had the same problem so he showed his and it ended the controversy. Obama refuses.
When you become a public official then you are no longer a private citizen. You are subject to scrutiny.
probable only in the mind of an obsessive conspiracy follower.
probable only in the mind of an obsessive conspiracy follower.
Is there really no bone in your body that finds it a bit peculiar he will not release it?
i think it was the state of hawaii that sealed the berf cert.
Yes sir, it was. It happened as Obama's plane was lifting off from Honolulu International. You know, when he was there for his grandma's funeral & just so happened to visit the Governor.
Let us see...
Kenya ambassador admits Obama was born there.
Obama's paternal grandmother admits he was born in Kenya and she was present in the delivery room.
Obama's wife, Michelle Obama, admits his home country is in Kenya.
And now...
Source (http://beforeitsnews.com/story/75/696/Explosive_Testimony:_Honolulu_Chief_Elections_Cler k_Says_Obama_NOT_Born_in_Hawaii.html)
It keeps getting interesting.
Stormfront, Gotho? You're using Stormfront stuff now?
Stormfront, Gotho? You're using Stormfront stuff now?
Stormfront? What is that?
Perhaps this is better: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=165041
Stormfront? What is that?
Perhaps this is better: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=165041
Stormfront is the renaming of the KKK... white supremacy peeps. The people who sponsored that nice video.
See nice attachment
What many people associated with this group and this 'movement' have in common is this. They don't think that Obama is the white man for the job.
the really funny thing is that if gotholic were right about even 5% of the stuff he posts, we'd all be either be dead or 'the matrix' would be real.
freako104
6/14/10, 03:58pm
You mean there is no sci fi movie with Keeanu Reeves where he fights bad guys in suits and Carrie-ann Moss doesn't look like she is going to a fetish club? As per Obama I accept that he was born in Hawaii. Not sure he's the best but I do accept that.
Stormfront is the renaming of the KKK... white supremacy peeps. The people who sponsored that nice video.
See nice attachment
What many people associated with this group and this 'movement' have in common is this. They don't think that Obama is the white man for the job.
I have looked into them and I do not find them racist. In fact, I think the following statement sums them up quite well (this is not their statement but something I read a long time ago and comes to mind and has very valid points):
I'm proud To Be White
Someone finally said it.
How many are actually paying attention to this ?
There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc.
And then there are just Americans.
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
You Call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,'
'Whitey,' 'Caveman' ... and that's OK.
But when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head,
Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner , Gook, or Chink ...
You call me a racist.
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you,
so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live ?
You have the United Negro College Fund.
You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Black History Month.
You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Yom Hashoah.
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
You have the NAACP.
You have BET.
If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) we'd be racists.
If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists.
If we had White History Month , we'd be racists.
If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance'
OUR lives we'd be racists.
We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce,
and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that ?
A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant,
but any color can be in the Miss America pageant. If we had a college
fund that only gave white students scholarships you know we'd be
racists. There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US .
Yet if there were 'White colleges' THAT would be a racist college.
In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your
race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights,
you would call us racists. You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and
orange, and you're not afraid to announce it.
But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.
You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us.
But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or
beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a
threat to society, you call him a racist.
I am proud.
But you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists ?
Started by David Duke in 1990 as a BBS, then a web-site by the KKK 1995 by Don Black, former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and in the 1970s a member of the National Socialist White People's Party (which had changed its name from the American Nazi Party in 1967), Black first received computer training while imprisoned for his role in an abortive 1981 attempt to overthrow the government of Dominica
Here's a nice quote repeated in several places on the nice site
Every day I pray hard for divine providence to send us a man of greatness and vision like Adolf Hitler who will immediately set about removing ALL parasites from our people and remove the jewish shackles placed upon us. Then we as a people will prosper like no other on earth
she is on her way in 2012!
Palin's a white-supremacist neo-nazi?
Wow..you guys sure know how to pick'em.
the really funny thing is that if gotholic were right about even 5% of the stuff he posts, we'd all be either be dead or 'the matrix' would be real.
If you were paying attention, then you would understand it has always been about the soft kill. Just like cooking a live frog.
Started by David Duke in 1990 as a BBS, then a web-site by the KKK 1995 by Don Black, former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and in the 1970s a member of the National Socialist White People's Party (which had changed its name from the American Nazi Party in 1967), Black first received computer training while imprisoned for his role in an abortive 1981 attempt to overthrow the government of Dominica
Well, that changes things.
Well, that changes things.
There's nothing wrong with being white (see European). There's nothing wrong with being proud to be white..or even pissed that you seem to be discriminated against for being that way. There is something wrong with not understanding that being a WASP is not a disadvantage and that many other groups feel that they need things like the NAACP in order to compete on equal grounds. There is something wrong with trying to push other 'races' down in order to raise yourself up.
Not speaking of you... but of some of the people associated with groups like Stormfront.
IMHO..there is only one race..and that's human.
http://www.otcentral.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7200&stc=1&d=1277678748
Certification of Live Birth released by Barrack Obama.
http://www.otcentral.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7201&stc=1&d=1277678748
Certificate of Live Birth released by Susan Nordyke, who was born two days later in Honolulu after the reported Obama birthdate.
Can anyone tell the difference?
That looks like mine & my son's.
Other than one is legit and the other an outright fraud?
nah not really
The WH released the president's passport but certain info is redacted. It does show Hawaii as his birthplace, though.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/0810/Dont_look_birthers_Obamas_passport.html?showall
August 17, 2010
Don't look, birthers: Obama's passport
Here's something new for the birthers to chew over: President Barack Obama's passport. Says he was born in Hawaii! But the White House has strategically fuzzed out certain data, so the mystery continues.
Now, it's his official passport, which means it's new, so the true believers will not be persuaded. Not that they ever would.
http://images.politico.com/global//blogs/POTUS_Passport_Enhanced.jpg
WOW! What's the deal with the red star on his forehead? LOL!
Show us the birth certificate!
you know jim, if you had a passport, you'd know those fields don't matter to what you're inquiring about.
There is also news about Obama's mother's passport. I created a thread and no one reponded.
Here is the new info: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJn_Z6GA7VY
I created a thread and no one reponded.
and there you have it. :bgtup:
WOW! What's the deal with the red star on his forehead? LOL!
Show us the birth certificate!
I thought that quite apropos.
Brian Williams pops the question.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/38914715#38914715
Good Lord I really hate that guy.
First off, the question was about Obama being Muslim, and he did the spin,
as usual, onto the Birther issue, which he knows is a little More unpopular.
Second.....
Did I just hear Williams say everybody that though Obama is a Muslim,
is the ENEMY of the PotUS?
He's a real piece of crappy work.
i think you hear a lot of things that aren't really there.
I think you don't hear things that are there.
First off, the question was about Obama being Muslim, and he did the spin,
as usual, onto the Birther issue, which he knows is a little More unpopular.
Second.....
Did I just hear Williams say everybody that though Obama is a Muslim,
is the ENEMY of the PotUS?
He's a real piece of crappy work.
He said that he faced accusations by his enemies that he was a Muslim.
Reversing the statement is not only bad grammatically, but a twist on the intent.
***
Beyond all that, what if he was a Muslim. Considering the seperation between church and state, how does the president's religion or even lack thereof impact on the position?
First off, the question was about Obama being Muslim, and he did the spin,
as usual, onto the Birther issue, which he knows is a little More unpopular.
Second.....
Did I just hear Williams say everybody that though Obama is a Muslim,
is the ENEMY of the PotUS?
He's a real piece of crappy work.
He said that the president faced accusations by his enemies that he was a Muslim.
Reversing the statement is not only bad grammatically, but a twist on the intent.
***
Beyond all that, what if he was a Muslim. Considering the seperation between church and state, how does the president's religion or even lack thereof impact on the position?
I think you don't hear things that are there.
no, i'm just not looking for marginal statements to polarize into something that indicates evil intentions. again, there's plenty of substantive things to critique, and this line of inquiry is silly.
what's happening here is the exact equivalent of some dipshit in the 60's suggesting that a candidate "has nigger blood in him."
Beyond all that, what if he was a Muslim. Considering the seperation between church and state, how does the president's religion or even lack thereof impact on the position?
First, there is the thing about dual loyalties.
Second, there is that thing about giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
ResearchMonkey
8/31/10, 04:46pm
I think the issue is more about if his father, thus obama, had birth allegiance to the British Empire. -- Which would make Obama ineligible to be POTUS
Of course all the press avoids this part of the issue.
First, there is the thing about dual loyalties.
Second, there is that thing about giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
Wrong we all know where his loyalties are which leads us too
he isn’t aiding the enemy, he is the enemy.
I'm sick and mutha fuckin' tired of these snakey socialists
on this mutha fuckin' government!
God damn America yer chickens are coming home to roost!
http://i47.tinypic.com/25swugg.jpg
He said that the president faced accusations by his enemies that he was a Muslim.
Reversing the statement is not only bad grammatically, but a twist on the intent.
***
Well, who are his enemies then?
Who was he talking about?
First, there is the thing about dual loyalties.
Second, there is that thing about giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
Dual loyalties? Like a Roman Catholic President having loyalties to the USA AND to the Pope? Okay. From now on, all Presidents of the USA MUST be ATHIESTS. You write up the petition and see how far you get with it, mkay?
How would his religion equate giving aid and comfort to the enemy? Is Obama a an extremist/terrorist or perhaps you're saying that he's a radically conservative Imam or sommat?
Oh, I get it. You're trying to say that ALL MUSLIMS are the enemy.
ResearchMonkey
8/31/10, 07:47pm
Dual loyalties? Like a Roman Catholic President having loyalties to the USA AND to the Pope? No. As in allegiance to another sovereign nation and flag.
Obama's stated father was a British subject, thus making Obama a native born, NOT a Natural Born Citizen as required by the Constitution. See: Vattel.
But nice try, again.
Oh, I get it. You're trying to say that ALL MUSLIMS are the enemy.
That is exactly what I am saying. ALL Muslims are potential enemies of America and Western culture as a whole.
If you cannot see what has happened in Britain, The Netherlands, France and most of Europe -- and what is taking place in your own country -- then you are blind.
Now, sit on that and rotate.
Considering the seperation between church and state,
Yes, we should consider that. There is no such wall of seperation. The framers were specifically intending to keep government out of religion but they had no inclination to the reverse.
ResearchMonkey
8/31/10, 08:54pm
The framers were specifically intending to keep government out of religion but they had no inclination to the reverse.Spreak it my heathen Brother!!
inB4enlightenment
No. As in allegiance to another sovereign nation and flag.
Obama's stated father was a British subject, thus making Obama a native born, NOT a Natural Born Citizen as required by the Constitution. See: Vattel.
But nice try, again.
Yeah...like Vatican City.
As for the Natural/Native born citizen... the difference is a large point of contention and has been since before the constitution was ever written.
Hell, the 14th Amendment doesn't use the term at all.
**
As an aside, the 14th would also disallow Sarah Palin from running for office. It's a shame that her hubby was part of a seccessionist movement, eh.:)
Oops.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3427/3792996637_032e97f6fe.jpg
:lol2:
That's pretty good....
Palin and McCain on the same cert. :D
That is exactly what I am saying. ALL Muslims are potential enemies of America and Western culture as a whole.
If you cannot see what has happened in Britain, The Netherlands, France and most of Europe -- and what is taking place in your own country -- then you are blind.
Now, sit on that and rotate.
puke...
I'm OK with 85 Islamic sharia courts are operating in Britain.
If the Europeans want to turn their countries over to the towelies
then so be it.
But when we have a President that says: A mosque at ground zero
oh yeah I'm up wid dat. And then jets off to Martha's Vineyard for
two weeks, no homey I'm not down wid dat.
I think it's time you be gettin' yo freak ass outta our White House!
http://i51.tinypic.com/2m452qp.jpg
ResearchMonkey
8/31/10, 11:19pm
Yeah...like Vatican City.
>Implying the Vatican is a real nation like all the other real nations.
It is it's own unique thing for sure, but really Bish. Why don't you try to get citizenship there, maybe buy a summer home there?
Hell, the 14th Amendment doesn't use the term at all.
You even have to read as far as the amendments Bish, look at Article II of our Constitution. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Clau se_5:_Qualifications_for_office)No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Except that the 2nd doesn't define what it means by natural born citizen.
>Implying the Vatican is a real nation like all the other real nations.
It is it's own unique thing for sure, but really Bish. Why don't you try to get citizenship there, maybe buy a summer home there?
It was a rebuttal against the Pope not having it's own flag etc...
The point is that the Pope has a great deal of influence and has been known to try and use said influence in the White House.
He said that the president faced accusations by his enemies that he was a Muslim.
Reversing the statement is not only bad grammatically, but a twist on the intent.
***
Well, who are his enemies then?
Who was he talking about?
Got an answer yet, or just being contrary?
you are the enemy. i am sending a crew of pipe-hitting motherfuckers to your home to plook your goats and seize all canned soup products.
you are the enemy. i am sending a crew of pipe-hitting motherfuckers to your home to plook your goats and seize all canned soup products.
You have a position in the admin or something?
Jesus Lord, I love this! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUEzSI3Sh_A)
Jesus Lord, I love this! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUEzSI3Sh_A)
:rofl2:
It is funny because it is true.
Got an answer yet, or just being contrary?
The Repiblican right and the Tea Partiers?
so, the Majority of U.S. Citizens are the enemy?
I believe that's what I quoted News-Dude as saying.
So I guess you agree now then. Cool.
Yes catocom I love how the left wing media says these things
calling tens of millions of Americans these names.
We know how they view us, we know who the true enemies
of America are.
so, the Majority of U.S. Citizens are the enemy?
I believe that's what I quoted News-Dude as saying.
So I guess you agree now then. Cool.
Do you say that the Republican right and the Tea Party members are the President's allies, then? They certainly don't act like it.
As for the 'majority' - I was referring to the leaders of those parties. I don't profess to speak for the common man.
Who do you speak for, the cultural elite? eh?
If the ten points could be rammed down the throats
of the American population like deathcare and bail outs
things would turn around so fast it would make your head spin
till it fell off.
Oh and the last 2 times there were tax cuts for the rich
not only did I get to keep more of my own, the economy as a
whole improved and everyone got richer.
Now there is something that's worked every time it's been tried.
Do you say that the Republican right and the Tea Party members are the President's allies, then? They certainly don't act like it.
No not allies. Part of the the same country man.
Are you saying he's not an American, or you don't think Reps, and tea partiers are American?
The "enemy" is trying to kill all of us Americans.
THAT's who the enemy is.
well, maybe they don't want to kill All Americans....just the Infidels.
http://i55.tinypic.com/hx3p8l.jpg
Source (http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/09/03/birther-defense-not-working-for-army-doc-who-refused-afghan-duty/?icid=main|main|dl1|sec4_lnk2|168394)
Birther Defense Not Working for Army Doc Who Refused Afghan Duty
3 days ago
So much for the "birther" defense. An Army judge turned down a request for President Obama to testify in the court martial of an Army doctor, Terrence Lakin, who refused to serve in Afghanistan because he first wanted proof that the president was born in the United States and therefore has authority to order his deployment.
Army Col. Denise Lind, presiding over a pretrial hearing, ruled that any evidence or witnesses involving Obama's citizenship was irrelevant to the charges against Lt. Col. Lakin, which include disobeying a lawful order and dereliction of duty, CNN said. Prosecutors have argued that -- apart from any question about the president -- Lakin, a surgeon, is in trouble because the officers ordering him to deploy were his legitimate superiors in the chain of command.
Lakin's lawyers say all military orders, at their root, come from the commander-in-chief, and "if the president is ineligible you need to know that," CNN said.
Lind's ruling at Fort Meade, Md., came after a report that retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney had filed an affidavit on Lakin's behalf. McInerney argued that Lakin's demand for Obama's birth record was legitimate and "essential to determining not merely his guilt or innocence" but whether Obama's "service as commander-in-chief is constitutionally proper."
McInerney, a Fox News contributor, thus joined the birther argument, which maintains that Obama was not born in the U.S. -- which would make him ineligible to be president -- despite evidence to the contrary and repeated statements by Hawaiian authorities that his birth certificate is on file and in order.
If court-martialed, Lakin could face a dishonorable discharge and as many as two years in confinement. He could also forfeit his pay -- nearly $8,000 a month.
Starting to have my doubts about the US military
gunning down American citizens in the streets in
the event of civil unrest resulting from the actions
and policies of this regime?
No not allies. Part of the the same country man.
Are you saying he's not an American, or you don't think Reps, and tea partiers are American?
The "enemy" is trying to kill all of us Americans.
THAT's who the enemy is.
"You're either with us, or against us"
it's all black and white.
So y'all like GW's policy then?
FTR, I can be for a person, but against their policies.
I can also dislike a person and their policies, without hating.
also
because I want a person out of office, doesn't mean I want them dead.
wow. let me just re-set my moral compass, then.
If you are in need of help in this recalibration
process I will volunteer my services.
wow. let me just re-set my moral compass, then.
it's all black and white.
There is hope for you yet.
Last time I needed a Birth Certificate was when I was
16 and my mommy took me down for my first drivers’ license
This week I needed my Birth Certificate so I had to order it
up and if the document in the beginning of this thread is
supposed to be a legitimate birth certificate then
I'm a poor black child from east LA.
One thing I learned after 51 years is that
I weighed 6 pounds 4 ounces at birth.
http://www.atheistcartoons.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/sfb.jpg
ResearchMonkey
9/18/10, 04:22pm
I'm not sure why all the lefty's ignore the fact that Obama's father was a British subject
no matter where Obama was born. His British/Kenyan father's foreign loyalties make
Obama ineligible to hold the office of POTUS.
Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen of the United States.
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5076/naturalborncitizenclaus.jpg
....where is the Birth Certificate?
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