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jimpeel
3/25/10, 09:06pm
It seems that there is a racially targeted tax in the health care bill that targets Caucasians. There will be an immediate 10% tax on all indoor tanning salons throughout America which the bill projects will glean in excess of 3 billion dollars for the government -- until, that it, they all move outside.

SOURCE (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aa32kl.M09T4)

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By Shannon Pettypiece and Alex Nussbaum

(Corrects effective date in first paragraph. Story first moved March 23.)

March 23 (Bloomberg) -- Indoor tanning salons will charge customers a 10 percent tax beginning in July in one of the changes Americans will see as a result of the U.S. health-care overhaul signed into law by President Barack Obama.

This story has been around for a while but went largely ignored. Imagine the uproar if there were a health care tax on all Afro-Sheen products?

SOURCE (http://www.nationaljournal.com/congressdaily/hca_20091208_1572.php)


Tanning Salons In Play As Potential Health Revenue Raiser

Tuesday, Dec. 8, 2009

First there was the "Bo-tax" on elective cosmetic surgeries. Now, a new tax on indoor tanning services could be in play, as Senate Democrats continue to hunt for healthcare revenues anywhere they can.

The concept of an excise tax on tanning services, which could include salon walk-ins or tanning beds and sunlamps sold for residential use, was floated in a weekend Senate staff meeting on the health bill. Officials described the idea as preliminary and not being seriously considered at this time. But as senators continue to draft amendments to add spending or scale back other pay-fors, all bets could be off. It would also be in keeping with Senate Democrats' desire to keep any new revenue sources within the healthcare system.

Indoor tanning has come under increasing fire of late for harmful health effects. Last week, the FDA issued a warning on its Web site, "Indoor Tanning: The Risks of Ultraviolet Rays."

"Sunlamps and tanning beds promise consumers a bronzed body year-round, but the ultraviolet (UV) radiation from these devices poses serious health risks," the FDA post said. It goes on to quote Sharon Miller, an FDA scientist and expert on UV radiation: "Although some people think that a tan gives them a 'healthy' glow, any tan is a sign of skin damage ... over time, this damage will lead to prematurely aged skin and, in some cases, skin cancer."

The FDA noted that in July, the International Agency for Research on Cancer, which is part of the World Health Organization, concluded that tanning devices are "carcinogenic to humans." In a 2008 report to Congress, FDA said that UV exposure associated with sunlamp products was excessive.

The FDA post cites the case of Brittany Lietz Cicala, the former Miss Maryland, who used tanning beds at least four times a week between ages 17-20 before being diagnosed four years ago with melanoma, the deadliest form of skin cancer. She now has about 25 scars from surgeries.

The Indoor Tanning Association, the trade group representing what it says is a $5 billion industry, could not be reached for comment Monday night. The group's Web site says it represents tanning manufacturers, distributors and salon owners, and was founded to "protect the freedom of individuals to acquire a suntan, via natural or artificial light."

On a "frequently asked questions" page on the group's site, it states that melanoma is more prevalent in people who typically work indoors and on parts of the body that do not receive regular exposure to sunlight. It also says moderate exposure to UV light can be good for health by helping to produce vitamin D.

The ITA's PAC is not very active this year, having contributed to only two senators, although they are influential: $1,000 each to Minority Leader McConnell and Agriculture Chairwoman Blanche Lincoln, as well as the National Republican Senatorial Committee, according to FEC records. Kentucky and Arkansas, home to McConnell and Lincoln respectively, are home to tanning equipment-makers, according to the ITA Web site.

by Peter Cohn

ResearchMonkey
3/25/10, 10:47pm
KFC 10% tax?

2minkey
3/26/10, 11:28am
you know jim, it's really hard to tell if you're joking here.

...but i certainly think there should be a dumb christian tax, because of the amount of babies they have that'll overburden the new health care system. and that'll work for whites, blacks, browns, ko-reans, whatever so your multicultural self won't need to get all worked up about it.

MrBishop
3/26/10, 11:59am
Afro-sheen products cause skin cancer?

Professur
3/26/10, 01:06pm
Actually, from what I'm reading of this bill, muslims have an opt-out on a religious basis. Seems they're not allowed to buy insurance. Insurance being a form of gambling.

MrBishop
3/26/10, 01:42pm
Bet Jehova's Witnesses will be up next.

2minkey
3/26/10, 02:26pm
Actually, from what I'm reading of this bill, muslims have an opt-out on a religious basis. Seems they're not allowed to buy insurance. Insurance being a form of gambling.

there would likely be an exception for any religiously-based issue with participation in the plan.

catocom
3/26/10, 03:18pm
hmm
In the interest of being fair, and truthful....
If I disagree with the parts I don't like, I just gotta express agreement with the parts I do agree with.

I'm for this part.
I also think elective cosmetic surgery should be taxed.

Actually, there's several parts of the bill I agree with, just not the overall,
and not the process of how it got there, or how certain things are implemented.

In some things imo, 'the ends do justify the means', but not with most.
There's a very fine line there, and that's where my major disagreement is.
Some don't see any lines, so they don't mind crossing them.

2minkey
3/26/10, 03:31pm
yeah, that would be great to put a special tax on elective plastic surgery.

maybe while we're at it we could put special taxes on ANYTHING that we personally find excessive or silly.

say, i think those idiots on ATVs should pay an extra tax for being... idiots... and hey they're bound to hurt themselves and cost the rest of us money.

catocom
3/26/10, 04:12pm
so you didn't like the plastic surgery tax in the so-called healthcare bill?

I was actually just saying they should go ahead and implement it.
It's still in there...isn't it?

I like that a whole lot better than the other thing they are going to tax....
(prosthetics, wheelchairs, ands other med devices)
What do you think about that part?

valkyrie
3/26/10, 04:21pm
DOWN WITH WHITEY!
:lol: :lol2: :rofl: :rofl2: :rofl3:

ResearchMonkey
3/26/10, 06:00pm
I'm NewAmish, exempt from gov't programs.

jimpeel
3/30/10, 03:17am
Ther will be civil rights challenges to the Caucasian Tax.

VIDEO LINK (http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2010/03/does-new-10-tanning-tax.html)

Winky
3/30/10, 05:32am
"Their days are numbered".

Hell yeah!

MrBishop
3/30/10, 10:35am
Ther will be civil rights challenges to the Caucasian Tax.

VIDEO LINK (http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2010/03/does-new-10-tanning-tax.html)

Hopefully the civil rights challenges will help stop people calling this a whitey-tax.

What a bunch of tripe!

2minkey
3/30/10, 11:09am
i'm still giving peel the benefit of the doubt here and assuming he's joking.

jimpeel
3/31/10, 03:21am
Don't worry. It's okay to target Whites. They are all bad people, you know. Ask President Obama. "That's just how white folks will do you."

Hear him in his own words and in his own voice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI77cU3jsFs

2minkey
3/31/10, 11:34am
oh for fuck's sake jim, get over it.

ResearchMonkey
3/31/10, 12:01pm
I swear, I heard you say uppity cracker in that post.

jimpeel
3/31/10, 09:28pm
oh for fuck's sake jim, get over it.

Yes, we should all accept our White guilt and take our place as the racial whipping boys of the world. We should admit that we are all evil and horrible and that every race on the face of the Earth is vastly superior to us -- even those who never even invented the wheel. We are vile nasty parasites which should be wiped from the Earth to make way for real humans.

There.

I think I'm over it.

2minkey
4/01/10, 11:12am
Yes, we should all accept our White guilt and take our place as the racial whipping boys of the world. We should admit that we are all evil and horrible and that every race on the face of the Earth is vastly superior to us -- even those who never even invented the wheel. We are vile nasty parasites which should be wiped from the Earth to make way for real humans.


oh, the drama. yes jim, white guilt. it must be horrible being you. perhaps you should write some more about this guilt thing. maybe then i could understand the pains that you feel. because i really don't know what the fuck you are talking about. but, then, you seem to think about this race thing far more than i do. far, far more.

sure, i've heard the term "white guilt," but, you know, i've never FELT it.

that more white people use tanning beds is incidental to this whole thing. perhaps you should get upset with various governmental and non-governmental agencies for targeting blacks with respect to certain medical conditions, because, incidentally, blacks do have notably higher incidences of certain conditions. so any effort relative to those conditions MUST BE aimed at blacks, to oppress them, just like taxing idiots who use cancer beds is aimed at tapping into YOUR WHITE GUILT.

it's all a big plot to make older white guys feel terrible about themselves and their ancestors' haircuts.

Gonz
4/01/10, 09:25pm
maybe while we're at it we could put special taxes on ANYTHING that we personally find excessive or silly.

Too much work. Just tax all incoming money over $25,000./year.

ResearchMonkey
4/01/10, 09:37pm
Why bother to tax it, just take everything over $25k. Issue more coupons for everyting else.

2minkey
4/02/10, 11:25am
:sleep:

ResearchMonkey
4/02/10, 02:19pm
Sleeping tax. Pay up.

ResearchMonkey
4/02/10, 03:01pm
Is whitey tax part of ....

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/7931/1270216266786.jpg

2minkey
4/02/10, 03:29pm
wow. a thousand different angles on the oppression of the anglo-american male. must take a lot of time and attention to think up all that shit. and focus. lotsa focus.

ResearchMonkey
4/02/10, 03:37pm
So cutting welfare is a racist act but taxing light pigmented people isn't?

2minkey
4/02/10, 04:04pm
i don't believe i made that assertion.

ResearchMonkey
4/02/10, 04:08pm
It's concept of the left that cutting welfare is racist. While you may not have asserted that, I'm wondering if you agree with it. (note the "?" at the end of the question)

2minkey
4/02/10, 04:56pm
the question mark does nothing like you're suggesting in that sentence.

http://media.skateboard.com.au/forum/images/samuel_l__jackson_pulp_fiction.jpg

whether or not i agree with some on the left that cutting welfare is racist - and just for your satisfaction, i don't - has nothing to do with the ridiculousness of "tanning bed tax as picking on the white guy." the latter is its own assertion and has no need for accessorizing.

you might want to read up on the differences between substantive and formal arguments. because this thread offers but a formal argument of the thinnest variety.

ResearchMonkey
4/02/10, 05:08pm
Thanks for the advice Minx, but I much prefer common sense and gestalt type arguments over advanced pseudointellectual rules of engagement.

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/3720/01125108par89380imagefi.jpg

2minkey
4/02/10, 07:20pm
well that did a lot to clarify your position.

ResearchMonkey
4/02/10, 08:40pm
OK, we'll not comparatively look at the dynamics of the racist question if you like.

So. How is a tax on a darkening service for lightly pigmented people not a tax predominantly on the cracker race?

Personally, I give shit either way. I've never used a tanning bed, they make people smell funny. I'm just applying the sociopolitical values and patterns held by the left and race dependent politics.

2minkey
4/03/10, 02:21pm
i'm fine with taxing STUPID PEOPLE. if they happen to be white, in an incidental sort of way, i don't really care.

anyone who thinks someone out there is drawing up plans to intentionally tax white people more is... well... chasing figments.

2minkey
4/03/10, 02:22pm
dude and will you get rid of that pic, the nostril is just gross.

Gonz
4/03/10, 03:02pm
i'm fine with taxing...

Hence, the problem

Cerise
4/03/10, 03:14pm
The nose knows it's Henry.

http://totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/henry-waxman-totally-looks-like-phantom-of-the-opera.jpg?w=400

catocom
4/03/10, 03:15pm
:rofl3:

2minkey
4/03/10, 04:27pm
Hence, the problem

yeah, pull it outta context... :sleep:

Gonz
4/03/10, 05:36pm
What happens when you get tired of STUPID PEOPLE & decide it's time to tax UTERUS HOLDERS or PIGMENTALLY CHALLENGED PEOPLE? Maybe we should tax DOMESTIC BEER DRINKERS.

Tax one, you can tax them all...purely in context.

2minkey
4/03/10, 09:58pm
that's already happening. tax the breeders. and you keep voting for them.

jimpeel
4/04/10, 11:53pm
The nose knows it's Henry.

http://totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/henry-waxman-totally-looks-like-phantom-of-the-opera.jpg?w=400

Yow!

The only difference is the Phantom has more hair!