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MrBishop
3/18/10, 11:39am
U.S. President Barack Obama made a rare appearance Wednesday on Fox News, a network his administration has battled with publicly, in a last-ditch effort to get support for his health-care bill.

Previously, the White House had deemed the network a hardline right-wing branch of the Republican Party.

Obama appeared testy and irritated during the interview with Bret Baier, in which he tried repeatedly to defend his case for health-care reform.

Baier grilled him about the complex legislative process Democrats might use to pass the bill.

Obama told Baier point-blank to stop interrupting him. "Bret, you've got to let me finish my answers," he said.

"Sir, I know you don't like to filibuster, but," Baier said.

"Well, I'm trying to answer your question and you keep on interrupting," the president replied.

Baier wanted to know if the Democrats would use a procedure called "deem and pass," an obscure legislative move which would not require a formal vote on the bill.

"Whatever form that takes, there is going to be a vote for health-care reform," was the president's answer.

Republicans have called the "deem and pass" action sleazy and unfair. In the history of the U.S., the move has never been used in landmark legislation.

Obama may not need to use it, as he tries to win over critics within his own ranks about the bill.

On Wednesday, one of the bill's fiercest critics among the Democrats, Dennis Kucinich, said he would support the bill.



Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/arts/media/story/2010/03/18/obama-fox.html#ixzz0iXTabo5e

Watch a piece of the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol82jiDavx4

MrBishop
3/18/10, 11:49am
Why did the guy keep interrupting? Seriously... he even interrupted when he was apologizing for interrupting!

valkyrie
3/18/10, 11:56am
Because Fox is a hardline right-wing branch of the Republican Party and because letting the President get his answers out would throw an intelligent light on the holes in the argument of the opposition. :rofl2:
Can't have that!!! :eek:

catocom
3/18/10, 01:13pm
Meh, just more song and dance.
The pres. gave nothing, and only directly answered about 3 specifics or so,
on things we pretty much already knew.

Healthcare ain't passing without the trickery, and lyings.

MrBishop
3/18/10, 04:56pm
Meh, just more song and dance.
The pres. gave nothing, and only directly answered about 3 specifics or so,
on things we pretty much already knew.

Healthcare ain't passing without the trickery, and lyings.

Which trickery are you alluding to, Cato?

ResearchMonkey
3/18/10, 04:58pm
If you can't recognize the shenanigans this point, you never will.

catocom
3/18/10, 06:12pm
Which trickery are you alluding to, Cato?

how about using percentages of numbers that aren't there?
(note: that's whats in the so-called fix for the senate bill)

Double counting

Double talk

How much do you want me to list?

Gonz
3/18/10, 09:01pm
Because Fox is a hardline right-wing branch of the Republican Party and because letting the President get his answers out would throw an intelligent light on the holes in the argument of the opposition.

Now that, my dear, is funny as hell.

Gonz
3/18/10, 09:02pm
Which trickery are you alluding to, Cato?

perhaps passing a bill that says' the other bill is passed & we'll fix the screw-ups later.

ResearchMonkey
3/18/10, 10:22pm
I can't wait 'til we can deem Pelosi and Obama impeached and charged with hi-crimes and treason.

Gotholic
3/19/10, 12:51am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=662R2awSwPQ

Their day will come.

Cerise
3/19/10, 11:40am
LOL @ the Deemocrats......

Winky
3/19/10, 01:26pm
http://members.cox.net/phxtech/h8t_U.JPG

We hate you!

MrBishop
3/19/10, 01:31pm
perhaps passing a bill that says' the other bill is passed & we'll fix the screw-ups later.

Par for the course... it's political lube and not exactly the first time it's been done..it's just Obama's first time.

MrBishop
3/19/10, 01:36pm
how about using percentages of numbers that aren't there?
(note: that's whats in the so-called fix for the senate bill)

Double counting

Double talk

How much do you want me to list?

Examples of what the hell you mean by the one's you've posted would be nice.

What percentage of what numbers?
Double-counting what and how?
Double-talk is a pretty wide and vague statement, even for you cato.

Winky
3/19/10, 01:37pm
It won't be the first time there's been an armed revolution either.
Where will you be when the shooting starts?

Oh that’s right, safely ensconced in your socialist utopia.

So shush up you!

Winky
3/19/10, 01:39pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0d3T2EvDTo&NR=1

2minkey
3/19/10, 02:11pm
is that shit serbian? sure you trust it? boy, get you some 'merican m193, or some of that good israeli Q3131a...

MrBishop
3/19/10, 02:14pm
Oh...promoting an armed insurrection...cute.

Here are some helpful words on how to pull it off right. (http://www.marx2mao.com/Stalin/AI05.html)

Winky
3/19/10, 05:05pm
You don't have to be a hero to do this job. But it helps.

catocom
3/19/10, 07:21pm
Examples of what the hell you mean by the one's you've posted would be nice.

What percentage of what numbers?
Double-counting what and how?
Double-talk is a pretty wide and vague statement, even for you cato.

wait 'til the quit adding, and 'slicing and dicing', and I'll post a whole new thread on it.

Gonz
3/20/10, 04:00am
Par for the course... it's political lube and not exactly the first time it's been done..it's just Obama's first time.

I'd like to know what other laws have been passed using procedural votes.

MrBishop
3/22/10, 01:33pm
Doesn't matter...looks like the Democrats decided not to use the Republican Option after all.

Cerise
3/22/10, 04:10pm
Now we are ALL socialists! :shrug:

MrBishop
3/22/10, 05:13pm
As if... damned thing didn't go far enough to even look like socialism.

ResearchMonkey
3/22/10, 05:17pm
The republican options never got ANY play. Free market, tort reform etc.

Yeah, the left own this one all to themselves.

Cerise
3/22/10, 05:18pm
Remember in November!

Winky
3/22/10, 07:19pm
November means nothing

When you see this begin to skyrocket
you will know that things are going to change rapidly.


Federal Funds Chart (http://www.newyorkfed.org/charts/ff/)

It will signal the apocalypse.

Gonz
3/22/10, 08:37pm
http://quakeragitator.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/upside-down-flag1.jpg

United Socialist States of America. USSA.

Hey Bish, how far should we go? Free homes? Free Food? Free Utilities? Free Car?

Winky
3/22/10, 10:13pm
Sign me up for free love.

MrBishop
3/23/10, 12:39pm
You're all out of your gourds.

Enjoy your paranoia while it lasts.

jimpeel
3/23/10, 06:55pm
One has to interrupt Obama or his lengthy, meandering answers, full of ums and ahs, will go the entire length of the interview, using all of the available time allotted, and still not give an answer.

Winky
3/23/10, 11:59pm
Jimmy we need to listen to Osammie
he has won and we must follow like
sheep to the slaughter.

2minkey
3/24/10, 11:36am
One has to interrupt Obama or his lengthy, meandering answers, full of ums and ahs, will go the entire length of the interview, using all of the available time allotted, and still not give an answer.

perhaps instead we should look to that lady you declared "hot" for concise, detailed answers. :rofl2:

seriously, dude, how can anyone that takes on your preferred form of bumper sticker politics demand anything other than soundbyte-ish slogans?

maybe obama should just say shit like "freedom isn't free!" and y'all would like him more.

valkyrie
3/24/10, 11:59am
http://quakeragitator.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/upside-down-flag1.jpg

United Socialist States of America. USSA.

Hey Bish, how far should we go? Free homes? Free Food? Free Utilities? Free Car?
You, and whoever is flying that flag upside down, should feel privileged to live the free country we call the United States of America. If you, or that person who is displaying our flag upside down, lived in a country like China you would be hauled off to prison, tortured and possibly executed.

Winky
3/24/10, 01:07pm
yer right Val there are people in this country
that need to be hauled off and executed
starting with the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue

MrBishop
3/24/10, 02:07pm
Uttering death threats now...cute.

Winky
3/24/10, 03:41pm
Glad you like it, you are used to having your life
decided by others me, not so much.

valkyrie
3/24/10, 07:02pm
yer right Val there are people in this country
that need to be hauled off and executed
starting with the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Assassination of the prez? Damn... that's just not right, even for you, Winks.

Gonz
3/24/10, 08:26pm
You, and whoever is flying that flag upside down, should feel privileged to live the free country we call the United States of America. If you, or that person who is displaying our flag upside down, lived in a country like China you would be hauled off to prison, tortured and possibly executed.

May I assume you understand the meaning?

Winky
3/25/10, 08:05am
“The Healthcare bill has put war into my hand,
I have only to open it and let havoc loose"

We fought a civil war to end slavery
will be fight to avoid being enslaved?

Gonz
3/25/10, 09:43pm
We fought a civil war to end slavery
will be fight to avoid being enslaved?

Today? No.


Near future...perhaps

Winky
6/15/10, 05:26am
How's that free deathcare a werkin' out for ya?

catocom
6/15/10, 09:05am
We fought a civil war to end slavery


despite what you've heard, that was not the main reason, or even A reason for some.
It was more about the land redistribution.

Gonz
6/15/10, 09:22pm
It was a multitude of reasons.

Slavery, states rights & a united nation were the top 3.