View Full Version : Michael Vick press conference
SouthernN'Proud
1/26/07, 09:26am
Vick sets record straight on marijuana charge (http://www.theonion.com/content/from_print/michael_vick_that_wasnt)
Glad that's cleared up.
NFL star Michael Vick was indicted today on a federal conspiracy charge for his alleged role in a dog fighting venture that operated from a Virginia property owned by the Atlanta Falcons quarterback
He's a big ole doodiehead.
http://web1.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0717072vick1.html
unclehobart
7/18/07, 06:21am
Nothing like pissing a $35 mil/year career right down the loo.
SouthernN'Proud
7/18/07, 09:52am
If he turns out to be guilty of these charges, I hope he gets treated like he treated his dogs. That is inexcusable.
TexasRaceLady
7/18/07, 10:28am
I cringe when my dogs get their rabies shot every year.
I can not imagine watching dogs tear each other apart and calling it a sport.
I knew we got rid of Matt Schaub too hastily.
SouthernN'Proud
7/18/07, 11:02am
I knew we got rid of Matt Schaub too hastily.
I started to ask how our Falcon contingency felt about that now.
Course, speaking for the Bucs fans among us...:headbng2: :clap: :lol: :dance: :elaugh1: :rofl:
Jeff Garcia looks better and better every day.
I was never a Vick fan. I would be more comfortable if we still had Schaub but now we are left with Joey Frigging Harrington....sigh...maybe he'll snap an ankle and we can roll with DJ Shockley.
Maybe you can get Aaron Brooks for cheap... :D
unclehobart
7/18/07, 09:41pm
Key-rist... Aaron Brooks is a bungling interception machine. We would have done better with Simms about 2 weeks after his abdominal surgery.
I'm sure Ryan Leaf could be had for a song.
unclehobart
7/18/07, 09:47pm
Vinny Testaverde!
Perhaps George Halas wants to suit up one last time.
I wonder if the Falcon's will replace him or just roll with what we have.
What about Jeff George?
:grumpy:
SouthernN'Proud
7/18/07, 11:06pm
There's always Heath Shuler...
Maybe Jay Shroeder would be looking to make a comeback... :D
How can you come back from being a has been at the start of your career?
Whats a Michael Vick and why should I care?
I'm all about Lindsay Nicole and Paris!
unclehobart
7/19/07, 09:33am
Theres word that Culpepper is interested.
Whats a Michael Vick and why should I care?
I'm all about Lindsay Nicole and Paris!
Michael Vick is a POS thug gangsta who was "indicted by a federal grand jury in Richmond, Virginia, on a conspiracy count alleging they bought and sponsored dogs in an animal fighting venture and traveled across state lines to participate in illegal activity, including gambling.
According to the indictment, dogs that didn't show enough fighting spirit, or that lost matches, were put to death by a variety of methods, including shooting, drowning, hanging and electrocution. Prosecutors allege that on one occasion earlier this year, Vick participated in killing eight dogs."
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/07/17...tml#cnnSTCText
Fine upstanding role model for the kiddies he's not!
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/football/nfl/05/29/vick0604/p1_house2.jpg
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/05/29/vick0604/index.html
That house has no curb appeal...much like the owner.
See how the outbuildings where the cruelty was happening are painted black to camouflage them?
See the trashy above ground pool? Is that where they fought them?
SouthernN'Proud
7/20/07, 04:45pm
Not likely. They have plywood "pits" they can assemble/disassemble easily and move from site to site (and hide...) that are generally used from what I've seen in various reports. The walls stand maybe 3' high. I'm guessing 6' to a side square roughly.
In one building a scale hung from the ceiling. There were treadmills to exercise the animals and a "rape stand," a contraption that holds aggressive dogs in place during breeding.
I wonder now how common a practice this for dog breeders in general.
"There exists a dogfighting subculture in the NFL and NBA," says Wayne Pacelle,
Wow, I had no idea.
Not likely. They have plywood "pits" they can assemble/disassemble easily and move from site to site (and hide...) that are generally used from what I've seen in various reports. The walls stand maybe 3' high. I'm guessing 6' to a side square roughly.
That's what Rob was telling me...so know I want to know why a multi-millionaire has a nappy ass empty above ground pool.
SouthernN'Proud
7/20/07, 06:33pm
Well, according to all reports I've seen, he didn't live there himself. Cousins I think.
It appears that the place was little more than a "cover" for this dog fighting activity, or at the least it was some place for his cohorts to live while engaging in these spectacles, if the reports are to be believed. Vick reportedly frequented there but did not reside there. Also, I don't know when the photo was taken. Could have been before "pool season".
SouthernN'Proud
7/20/07, 06:39pm
ATLANTA -- In what has quickly evolved into a collaborative effort that includes input of officials from the NFL, NFL Players Association and Atlanta Falcons, embattled quarterback Michael Vick could be urged to take a voluntary leave of absence to focus his energy on the legal challenges from a federal dogfighting indictment confronting him, sources said.
ESPN.com story (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2943276&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1)
Has anyone yet heard Vick proclaim his innocence? Innocent people can't wait to tell you how innocent they are. he's been curiously silent on all fronts. Lawyer advice maybe, but if it is I think it's a bad strategy. The longer he stays quiet, the more guilty he looks.
"The commissioner is concerned about the seriousness of the charges, and he wants to make sure Vick focuses on putting up the most appropriate defense," a source said. "Vick has to be convinced that it is in his best interests to take a leave of absence ... I think it's fair to say nobody's really comfortable with him playing under these circumstances."
Even a close Vick associate acknowledged early Friday that is the case.
Said the associate: "There's been a lot of stuff going on the last day or so, but the one thing that keeps getting clearer and clearer is that they don't want [Vick] around. The Falcons, the league, they know it's a mess and it's only going to get uglier if camp starts and he's on the field. If he's not [present for camp], at least there's a little bit of 'out of sight, out of mind,' you know? It removes the source of distraction. Otherwise, it's just [untenable]."
Well, the SI article says "But neither the case, nor Vick's connection to it, is so clear-cut. Since the raid, Vick, 26, has proclaimed his innocence and blamed family members who lived in the house". :shrug:
[quote=tonks]so know I want to know why a multi-millionaire has a nappy ass empty above ground pool.
Big-assed bird bath?
unclehobart
7/20/07, 06:58pm
If the photo goes back to the initial April police invasion, then it was about a month before pool season.
They really should have put a cover on it.
The empty is not the issue. A man that well off doesn't get a cheap ass above ground pool. They have kidney shaped italian tile monstrocities put in with cabanas and gilded chaise lounges and umbrella shades.
The property does seem low rent---probably the first house he bought with his NFL contract $. You're right--that pool looks a little out of place, tho.
unclehobart
7/20/07, 08:10pm
That would seemingly fit in with the whole 'bought strictly for a gaming cover' type of place. No real money went into the infrastructure because his hood-ass cousins would have just screwed it up anyway.
Dogfighting QBs followed by insider officials (http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/topstories/index.ssf?/base/sports-9/1184978346233660.xml&storylist=) in the NBA. No wonder I've lost interest in sports.
The NBA acknowledged Friday that the FBI is investigating Tim Donaghy for betting on games, including ones in which he officiated.
Oh, here's the problem-
The bottom line is referees don’t make enough money either. NBA refs roughly earn between $100,000 and $300,000 a year. Take a look at how their salary has increased over the years.
In 1983, NBA refs made between $18,146 and $78,259. Factoring in inflation, that’s $37,959 to $163,709. That’s an average increase of 136 percent over the past 25 years. Now let’s look at how players salaries increased. In 1983, the average NBA player salary was about $275,000. This past season, the average salary was $5.2 million. Factoring in inflation, NBA players salaries have increased 806 percent over the same time period.
Piss off (http://www.cnbc.com/id/19876494)
I sure wouldn't mind making only $100,000 to $300,000 a year. I think I could pinch some pennies and find a way to live on that.
SouthernN'Proud
7/21/07, 11:24am
I didn't know the refs were as talented as the players.
I also can't recall ever buying a ticket to a sporting event to see the refs work.
I've seen games where I wished they'd stop working.
SouthernN'Proud
7/30/07, 04:27pm
RICHMOND, Va. -- One of Michael Vick's co-defendants pleaded guilty Monday to federal dogfighting conspiracy charges in a plea agreement with prosecutors.
Tony Taylor makes a quick exit from a Virginia court following his plea agreement hearing Monday.
Tony Taylor, 34, who will be sentenced Dec. 14, said he was not promised any specific sentence in return for his cooperation with the government.
Taylor faces a maximum of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine, but likely will get less under federal sentencing guidelines. The guideline range will be determined by court officials, and U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson can depart from that range if he finds aggravating or mitigating circumstances.
linkage (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2954244)
Kinda screws up Vick's innocent plea when one of his codefendants pleads guilty to conspiring with him, huh?
He's done. Hold on to those Vick Falcons jerseys, they'll be collector's items in a few years...somewhere.
Gato_Solo
7/31/07, 11:11am
This is me...:D
This is me caring about Michael Vick...:yawn:
Gato_Solo
8/02/07, 02:12pm
I wonder if this dog (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291687,00.html) is up for sale, and whether we cantalk pet abusers into buying it...:D
That's what Rob was telling me...so know I want to know why a multi-millionaire has a nappy ass empty above ground pool.
According to the indictment, dogs that didn't show enough fighting spirit, or that lost matches, were put to death by a variety of methods, including shooting, drowning, hanging and electrocution. Prosecutors allege that on one occasion earlier this year, Vick participated in killing eight dogs."
;)
He's done. Hold on to those Vick Falcons jerseys, they'll be collector's items in a few years...somewhere.
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/captroberto/vick_jersey.jpg
the dogs get even (http://www.11alive.com/news/article_news.aspx?storyid=101303)
the dogs get even (http://www.11alive.com/news/article_news.aspx?storyid=101303)
Bwahahaha! :laugh:
a portion of the proceeds set to go to the Jacksonville Humane Society:toast:
That's the best thing ever!
So basically this Vick guy is toast?
Dogfighting co-defendant flips July 30, 2007 (http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/07/30/vick.dogfighting/index.html)
OK, granted what Vick might have done is reprehensible but, should he not have his day in court like any other accused person?
I am of the opinion that he is most likely guilty, but I also know that if he isn't all it takes is an overzealous prosecutor wanting to make a name for himself by taking down Vick and a few lies from co-defendants who would say anything to keep their own asses out of the sling.
Can we just wait to punish him till he's convicted? Or does our system of justice just go out the window when someone is accused of a crime that offends our sensibilities?
unclehobart
8/09/07, 08:14am
Trial by government is one thing... trial by media is something else entirely.
SouthernN'Proud
8/20/07, 04:01pm
Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick accepted a plea deal Monday to avoid additional federal charges in a dogfighting case and now faces a likely lengthy prison sentence.
"After consulting with his family over the weekend, Michael Vick has asked that I announce today that he has reached an agreement with federal prosecutors regarding charges pending against him," Billy Martin, one of Vick's attorneys, said in a statement.
"Mr. Vick has agreed to enter a plea of guilty to those charges and to accept full responsibility for his actions and the mistakes he has made. Michael wishes to apologize again to everyone who has been hurt by this matter.
ESPN link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2983121)
Smart move on his part. Smarter than setting up a dogfighting ring at least.
Can you say "Oakland Raiders 2011"? I knew you could...
Professur
8/20/07, 04:16pm
I just want to hear one thing. Why.
unclehobart
8/20/07, 04:49pm
It's a black thing. You wouldn't understand.
At least now that a guilty verdict has been accepted that contradicts all of the innocence pleading to direct examinations by the team and comissioner, he can now be suspended and his contract can be voided. God knows his contract is the biggest anchor in all of football. At least it will free up some salary cap so the team can buy some other QB's and a tighter O Line and make something of themselves.
I'm willing to bet he will be banned from the NFL for life. He'll be a star in the Arena league.
Goodel had said that if he discovered Michael Vick was lying to him about his involvement in the dog fights he would view it as a violation of league policy. I am betting he will not play again until we have a new commish.
SouthernN'Proud
8/20/07, 06:15pm
Suits me. His jail term won't be harsh enough for my taste, so hit him in the wallet at least.
Wonder if Virginia Tech will rename that building they named after him...I'd be willing to say it won't be the Animal Sciences building at the very least.
The people involved with this case folded in a damned hurry. The feds must have had some awedome evidence.
unclehobart
8/21/07, 07:51am
The rules of evidence and procedure in fed cases are a bit more streamlined and immune to the 'OJ Simpson' effect of a dog and pony state trial.
Also, the threat of having a RICO charge on top of it all would have brought the tally to darn near 30 years in the pokey.
SouthernN'Proud
8/21/07, 09:46pm
Yeah, without that "superceding indictment" as an ace in the hole, and the RICO possibility, I think he'd have taken his chances with the 12. Lord knows he's cocky enough to believe he'd come out on top.
unclehobart
8/24/07, 07:20pm
Vick has been fired as of 6pm EST.
davesnothere
8/25/07, 01:08am
I would post a comment but since this lame forum does wont allow me to post a link to a simple news article (I must say,this is a first for asnine) I can't.
I would post a comment but since this lame forum does wont allow me to post a link to a simple news article (I must say,this is a first for asnine) I can't.
Great way to start, call our forum lame? I can post a link and don't think there is a restriction that says a noob can't, but I don't know that for sure. Anyone?
I would post a comment but since this lame forum does wont allow me to post a link to a simple news article (I must say,this is a first for asnine) I can't.
With very little effort, I could make your name a reality.
The rules were set before you set forth your astonishing wit & personality upon we poor mere mortals, so, in the interest of friendship...be nice or be gone.
davesnothere
8/25/07, 02:06am
noob? Been here way longer than you...
davesnothere
8/25/07, 02:07am
gonz, get real. The simple ability to post a link to a news article...
I find the ability to post a link after 15 posts quite, well, stupid.
This serves what?
davesnothere
8/25/07, 02:08am
our astonishing wit & personality
Fights on. You called it.
davesnothere
8/25/07, 02:10am
For what purpose though? An explanation to far past your grammar?
No explanation is necessary. You came to us, with our rules already set. Perhaps you may have gotten a better answer had you asked nicely but since you immediately went on the attack, you have an answer. Once that suffices.
davesnothere
8/25/07, 02:14am
Oh Gonz. So, well, you. :)
davesnothere
8/25/07, 02:18am
Been here way longer than you...
Perhaps you need to go over this again Gonz? Let it sink in aye?
davesnothere
8/25/07, 02:19am
Post #8.... Maybe sometime tonight I can post that now outdated link....
:/
daveishere
8/25/07, 02:35am
Read your PM Gonz...
daveishere
8/25/07, 02:39am
Before you go banning people, maybe, just perhaps, you might try finding out if someone is simply screwing around Gonz...
Someone you've known for quite sometime.
Get off your power trip dude.
daveishere
8/25/07, 02:41am
What? You gonna ban me too?
daveishere
8/25/07, 02:44am
So, like how long does it take you to reply to a PM Gonz? It took you a whole minute to ban me but to reply is taking forever....
daveishere
8/25/07, 02:45am
Someone has to add some life to this place. :D
Fury ain't here so it may as well be me. :D
daveishere
8/25/07, 02:48am
Geez gonz, you sure you know what yer doing in that CP? Hate to see you break the friggin forum. :D
daveishere
8/25/07, 02:59am
Should I call you and walk you through fixing yer screwup there Gonz? :D
daveishere
8/25/07, 03:03am
I know. You are all just dying to know who this is.
:D
Come on Gonz, fix yer fuckup. :D
daveishere
8/25/07, 03:05am
btw markjs, yes, I've been here a lot longer than you, but my intention was not to disrespect you. Cool?
daveishere
8/25/07, 03:06am
Is like any freakin' body else actually reading these posts or are they just on some kinda of auto refresh mode?
daveishere
8/25/07, 03:07am
Oh and PT...I see you there. Hey dude. :D Sup?
Ever read yer freakin PM Gonz?
I went to bed Posty :p
It's been answered.
Long weeks & trolls don't make a good Friday, eh? ;)
SouthernN'Proud
8/25/07, 11:43am
I know. You are all just dying to know who this is.
Not really. I have my hunch though.
unclehobart
8/25/07, 02:07pm
It was Posty all along playing at some little game.
Posty: per your assertion that you have been here longer than Gonz...
Incorrect. You signed up in the initial wave like the rest of us. He has an employee stap of #40. You are #72.
Unless you have some alt ID that you initially signed up with within the first three hours of the boards inception....
I never said that I'd been here longer than Gonz.
Why is everyone all on edge around here? Try to have a bit of fun and everyone seems to get miffed at the slightest thing.
Probably because you came off like a know-it-all asshole. How the fuck are we supposed to know it was apparently all in humor?
Wow...
Well, if I offended you, then I'm sorry.
Lighten up though....
unclehobart
8/25/07, 02:44pm
Sorry... you were talking to markjs. I shoulda backread it. Markjs has an employee number of 117... which only puts him behind by like 5 days at best.
Sorry to be touchy... but the spambots, trolls, tards have been pouring out of the woodwork lately. The things you were mentioning (like link banning) has been applied to all new accounts under (x) posts and (x) time to prevent professional spammers and salesmen from hawking their wares. So far it has done pretty well. We are the fastest spamkillers this side of HWC.
I'm an employee? Where's my paycheck?
Yeah I thought the start date on this board was April 2002. But to some I suppose 5 days could be contrued as a lot longer...Maybe I missed a damn exciting 5 days?
117? 117!!!
17 is my lucky number! so 117 means.......absolutely nothing!
I'm an employee? Where's my paycheck?
in THE POST, err, mail
:rofl: sometimes I just slay myself
sometimes I just slay myself
If only....
I'll give that one star * on my 5 star funny-o-meter though.....
unclehobart
8/25/07, 07:06pm
MJS, Those first five days really were something to behold. I swear that there were about 80 people posting for 36 hours straight. People were averaging like 100 posts a day back then. I think Justintime had like 360 on the first day alone.
what number am I then? I have been here from the start or damn close...
You know why I am such a peign? Because I am an Eig-rab, I am I-reignian, from the country I-REIGN!
Mark, Dude...settle down.
Hey I am havin fun!
Don't tell me I haven't made you at least almost want to giggle at least once or twice in the past month!
Of course you have! You are just very.....intense today.
I am damn proud of that new signature, in fact you might say it REIGNS!
*Addendum to disclaimers* Or, you may not say it REIGNS.
i think some of us are getting concerned. you've been on the "reign" campaign for over 12 hours now with very little break in the action.
it does seem a bit on the manic side.
just an observation
We bipolars, even when we stick to our medication schedule do still on occasion get manic, but when properly medicated, it's manageable and even fun, in fact, you might even say it....
REIGNS!
BTW I slept a full four hours while the board slept, all but for catocom....
:bgpimp:
unclehobart
8/26/07, 04:27pm
what number am I then? I have been here from the start or damn close...
29.
I don't know if it works for everyone... but here's the easy way:
Hold your mouse over someones name either here in these threads or in the members list... basically when its a redirect link and look at the string of info (for me its down on the bottom). The last number is the answer you seek.
29.
I don't know if it works for everyone... but here's the easy way:
Hold your mouse over someones name either here in these threads or in the members list... basically when its a redirect link and look at the string of info (for me its down on the bottom). The last number is the answer you seek.
yep that works for me too.. I feel old, there are VERY few members (that are still here) that got here before me.:eek5:
I can't see the numbers...
There are very few members that have actually stuck around at all!
Hover over a username. It says at the end "u=7"(in the address bar bottom left of your screen in IE)
Yours says 20.
In firefox, I have to hover over an av to get that... hovering over the name shows nothing, presumably because clicking the name brings up a drop-down menu while the av is a direct link to the user's profile. Clicking the user name brings up the drop-down menu and hovering over any of those links has the desired result as well.
BeardofPants
8/27/07, 05:57am
Whoah, I didn't know you could do that.
edit: mbr no. 748.
unclehobart
8/27/07, 07:36am
I think I stumbled across it by accident a year or so ago.
fury=1
samcurry=2
no idea who 3-5 are... but I think they are some of the major players that no longer welcome here. I haven't exactly gone looking either.
3. sb
4. jt
5. Huge
no 6
7. Leslie
8. nodnod
no 9
10. Outlaw69
6 or 9 is probably he who must not be named ;)
btw, you guys realize the first post of this thread has a link to The Onion?
Michal Vick's response to the suspension.....
http://profootballtalk.com/VickandCommish.jpg
Professur
9/06/07, 10:26am
My hero.
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/uc/20070907/lpo070907.gif
SouthernN'Proud
9/25/07, 05:24pm
SUSSEX, Va. -- Michael Vick and three co-defendants were indicted by a grand jury Tuesday on state charges related to a dogfighting ring operated on Vick's Virginia property.
Vick, who already pleaded guilty in federal court to a dogfighting conspiracy charge and is awaiting sentencing on Dec. 10, was indicted for beating or killing or causing dogs to fight other dogs and engaging in or promoting dogfighting.
The grand jury passed on indicting the Atlanta Falcons quarterback and two co-defendants on eight counts of animal cruelty, which would have exposed them to as many as 40 years in prison if convicted.
Any animal cruelty charge in Virginia is punishable by up to five years in prison. And in a written plea for the federal case, Vick admitted helping kill six to eight dogs at the Surry County property. Similarly, the three co-defendants in the case have admitted their involvement and detailed what they claim was Vick's role.
So y'all will know I ain't lying (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3035692)
By law, State time must be consecutive to Federal time. So if he gets anything on the Virginia charges, it'll start AFTER he finishes whatever the Federal judge gives him. And with his confessions and plea agreement in Federal court, I'd bet the farm he gets some State time.
All in all, I'm guessing he wishes he'd spent his money on something besides dogfighting.
As disgusting as I find this guy...what's the point of state charges? It's encroaching on double jeopardy territory & his professional life is already finished.
unclehobart
9/26/07, 08:02am
Wheres the double Jeapordy? The constitution makes the state and fed separate entities.
I think the rub is that they have to build separate cases. If they share too much material it ends up as double jeapordy. I forget the small details. I wonder how the feds got the case before the state was allowed to prosecute? Perhaps the gambling angle and interstate possiblity of mob control of americas pastime made the whole system freak out.
As disgusting as I find this guy...what's the point of state charges? It's encroaching on double jeopardy territory & his professional life is already finished.
Face time. Gotta gitcher oar in the water and stir up some more of the chum.
SouthernN'Proud
9/26/07, 09:20am
I must correct a factual error in my last post. State time and fed time are NOT mandated to be served consecutively. I was under that impression most likely because in the Court I work in it will be...every time. Apologies for the mistake.
As to why...it's your ballyhooed federal government's job to prosecute interstate infractions, Gonz. It's the State's job to prosecute State infractions. The fact that he broke both is his own damn fault. It happens every day. Virginia is only prosecuting certain aspects of the mess, as are the feds. Had VA gone after him on Animal Cruelty charges, up to eight counts as I understand it, then each of those could have resulted in 5 years. Each. They didn't because those deeds are more or less covered in the federal indictment as I understand it.
Now for the real reason they're doing it. A large part of the investigative acts leading up to the fed charges were done (and paid for) by the State of Virginia. Their investigation was commandeered, if we recall, by the feds AFTER the way had been paved for them. This is Virginia's recourse to recoup the costs associated with those investigative activities. He may or may not get additional time to serve, but he'll damn sure get to foot the bill for not only the legal proceedings, where every staple, sheet of copier paper, and rubber stamp has a cost attached to it, but via the fines that will be levied he'll get to reimburse Virginia for the cost of the investigation. That, too, happens every day.
It's the ideal circumstance IMO. The feds take care of their business, and the State takes care of its business. If only...
It's still redundant. He's been punished for this crime. That entity A has a slightly varied version than entity B. One crime, one punishment. The rest is piling on.
You have to forgive Gonz, SnP. He's just salivating over the idea that the Raiders will end up with him. ;)
unclehobart
9/26/07, 11:27am
It's still redundant. He's been punished for this crime. That entity A has a slightly varied version than entity B. One crime, one punishment. The rest is piling on.It's about little podunk regional DA's trying to get their name in the paper so that they can make an easier play up the ladder in the future. Pad that resume'. After all... its only taxpayer money. Its practically free.
SouthernN'Proud
9/26/07, 12:30pm
It's still redundant. He's been punished for this crime. That entity A has a slightly varied version than entity B. One crime, one punishment. The rest is piling on.
Then I'll look for you to start doing what I do. Change the system in some meaningful way. I've set my course, I'll expect you to follow suit in your own way.
unclehobart
9/26/07, 03:12pm
Complete dumbass... 100% (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20994016/)
SouthernN'Proud
9/26/07, 03:33pm
But it's just a harmless little plant. Nobody should be punished for smoking Mother Nature. Oh the calamity! Oh the outrage! Why can't marijuana smokers just be left alone? They're just like everyone else!
Moron. His regard for law and order speaks volumes. At least he could have waited until he got inside the jail before toking up. God knows there's more weed in jail than anywhere else.
While I'm all for the legalization of marijuana (all drugs, more or less), could he be a bigger idiot? :rolleyes:
You have to forgive Gonz, SnP. He's just salivating over the idea that the Raiders will end up with him. ;)
Leave Lyle alone,. He's dead.
Gato_Solo
12/26/07, 03:02am
Really (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fg4ZTJljmY)??? :rofl4:
SouthernN'Proud
1/08/08, 12:35am
Hi ho, hi ho, it's off to Leavenworth he goes (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3185291)
RICHMOND, Va. -- Michael Vick left Virginia on Monday to enter a drug treatment program at a Kansas prison, a move that could reduce the former NFL star's 23-month sentence on a federal dogfighting conviction.
Michael Vick was transferred to the U.S. Penitentiary in Leavenworth, Kan., on Monday to serve the rest of his 23-month sentence.
The suspended Atlanta Falcons quarterback is now at the U.S. Bureau of Prisons minimum security facility in Leavenworth, his attorney, Billy Martin, said.
"Mr. Vick hopes to participate in programs offered at that facility, including the Bureau of Prisons drug treatment program," Martin said in a statement.
Vick tested positive for marijuana in September while he was on supervised release following his guilty plea. The residential drug treatment programs at Bureau of Prisons institutions take place in units set apart from the general prison population, lasting at least 500 hours over six to 12 months, according to Bureau of Prisons policy.
Upon successful completion of the program, nonviolent offenders may be granted up to one year of early release. Staff members review the inmates' records and behavior to determine if they are eligible for early release.
But...but...but I thought that phony water bottle he got buste...I mean harassed over at that airport was for his earrings??!!
I'm so disillusioned. I need to lie down. Could someone fan me with a palm frond?
Gato_Solo
1/09/08, 03:19am
But...but...but I thought that phony water bottle he got buste...I mean harassed over at that airport was for his earrings??!!
I'm so disillusioned. I need to lie down. Could someone fan me with a palm frond?
No palm fronds, but I can piss down your back and tell you its raining. :lol: :bolt:
Well hell. If I'm ever going to go to jail, I'll smoke some joints first.
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