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Professur
1/08/07, 12:19pm
Well, I was looking for a way to knock sweets out of the kids diet and made the mistake of introducing beef jerky. Well, it was a huge success. But given that it's more expensive than t-bone steaks ... I was quickly in an untenable situation. So for christmas, I suggest that someone get me a dehydrator so I could make my own. Sure enough, come Christmas day, I got two. One was the 5 tray flying saucer Ronco special, and the other, the Eastman kit (wallymart special). Well, I fired up the computer and downloaded a bunch of jerky recipies, got in some meat and hit the kitchen. The first batch was a couple of pounds of flank steak sliced and marinaded in a mix of soy/worcheshire and spices and run for a quarter day in the Ronco. And it started disappearing in a hurry.

Fast forward a week, and Saturday I decided to try out the Eastman. Well, the Eastman consists of an 18" square rack, some Jerky cure, and a caulking gun. No, I'm not shitting you. You mix the cure with 5lbs of burger and stuff it into the gun, then squeeze out either half inch flat sticks, or quarter inch round sticks. (Look a lot like those doggy treats). Well, I'd buggered up buying pork for my Lorne sausage and instead of pork bought a few pounds of mixed beef/pork/veal. Not knowing how that would affect my sausage recipe, I'd put it aside, but now I saw something I could use it up on. I added a bit more pork and beef to make up the 5lbs, added the jerky cure and let it sit overnight.

Well, yesterday I pull it out and start squirting it out onto the drying rack provided. And it's quickly obvious that someone missed the boat somewhere, because that rack is quickly full, and I'm nowhere near done with the mix. No problem. I'm still in experiment mode where this is all concerned, so I'll try firing some of it onto the racks of the Ronco and see how that turns out. After all, being in experiment mode, if all of this is wasted ... no skin off my nose. It's a learning process at this stage. So I fire off one tray of the flat sticks. Still not making any great dent in the meat supply. Go for broke. Another Ronco tray, this time of the round ... and I just make it a bullseye. Meat rings. Cool. Still loads of meat. Next tray is an unbroken string, round and round in a spiral. Plenty left, do another one of them. Last Ronco tray, a spiral of the flat. Well crap, I'm all out of racks ... and I've still got meat left. Damn, this is starting to get to be serious work. My arm's cramping from squeezing this damn gun. Pull out a regular baking rack and finally finish up on that. Barely had enough room, but I manage.

Well, the baking rack and the Eastwood rack go in the oven at 200, with the oven door wedged open with a ball of tinfoil. The Ronco goes on and the waiting begins. Every hour I check it ... and it's soon obvious that the fat content required for good sausage isn't the fat content recommended for goot jerky. This stuff is sweating something fierce. But what the hell. Hour after hour go by , rotate the racks now and then .... and finally the first racks are ready. Pull one out, get it unstuck, and paper towel the grease off the top. Not much grease looks to be lift in, but I decide to leave the other racks to got another couple of hours. Offer up a few tasters and the consensus is, back in it goes. Needs more drying. Well, another hour and that one comes back out to try again. Sure enough, the paper towel tells the story. It needed that extra.

Now I should mention that the kids have experimented with the store bought flavours and they've got their favorites. And we usually have several types in the house at any time. Beef, Peppered, Turkey and Buffalo. Well, how should the kids identify this new homemade stuff? Well, it was soon named : Piggy jerky. Well, fully half of the first rack of piggy jerky never made if off the paper towel into storage ... unless you count little bellies as storage. I'd hear a noise behind me, and as I turned, the scamper of feet running off, and paper towel left empty. The Ronco stuff wasn't as quick, and did have to be moved about on the racks. As with any good experiment, I discovered that the stuff at the centre of the trays doesn't get the same heat as at the outer edges. But the spiral rounds look exactly like the 8' string of jerky they sell at wallymart. Needs more spice to pep it up tho. That's not a bad thing, in my book, since it's easier for the boys to eat. V2.0 prefers the first batch tho, with the soy/worcheshire.

I'm anxiously waiting to see how this is gonna reflect in the grocery bill.

highwayman
1/08/07, 12:33pm
I'm anxiously waiting to see how this is gonna reflect in the grocery bill.

Morgage the house...

I used a diferent smoker then what I was used to last year and ruined 30 pounds of meat...Lets see...three bucks a pound plus the cure...That sombitch went into mothballs and has been rusting ever since...

Professur
1/08/07, 12:36pm
Well, that's why I work in experiment mode to begin with. Small batches, and 100% tolerance for complete failure. You just have to keep slugging away until you nail it.

So what kind of smoker are we talking?

Inkara1
1/08/07, 01:59pm
I love me some jerky. Especially peppered. My favorite is a local brand here, Ray's Own Brand... problem is, it's $8.99 for a quarter-pound package. I can get another local brand, Cattaneo Bros. (second-favorite brand), for $12.99 for half a pound at the same store.

Professur
1/08/07, 02:02pm
The regular Jack Links bag is $6.99 here. There a South American product Oberto which is slightly cheaper ... but it's so dry and brittle it's like chewing flavoured sawdust.

highwayman
1/08/07, 07:45pm
Well, that's why I work in experiment mode to begin with. Small batches, and 100% tolerance for complete failure. You just have to keep slugging away until you nail it.

So what kind of smoker are we talking?

I tried a couple small batches before going the major cook off, even the salmon and oysters came out good...The problem had been going with a large batch and a higher heat...

Don't remember the brand but it is propane heated and rated for 60 pounds...

Gonz
1/09/07, 04:16am
I'm anxiously waiting to see how this is gonna reflect in the grocery bill.

Use venison...that's what deer were made for.

BB
1/09/07, 07:08am
or to really save money - South american sawdust ... ;)

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Don't think i have ever had Jerky ..they started marketing it over here, recently, but - is it any good?

What's it like - what is it?

- and - which eejit came up with a name like that?

Professur
1/09/07, 09:06am
Use venison...that's what deer were made for.

That's next year. I missed the season this year because I changed bow and I'm really not happy with this new one's reliability (or my reliability with it) in the field. Nailing the 10 ring in a shootoff is one thing, but the valley is really sloppy and it's a bitch hitting my anchor point without effort.

unclehobart
1/09/07, 09:26am
Have you ever thought of rigging up a cold smokehouse and doing mondo slabs of everything?

Professur
1/09/07, 09:37am
Now you're just being silly.

spike
1/09/07, 09:42am
Well, I was looking for a way to knock sweets out of the kids diet

Grapes, oranges, peaches, raisins, apricots, apples, watermelon, apples?

Professur
1/09/07, 09:55am
They're next for the dehydrator. The problem with those is ... time. Half of what I buy goes in the garbage because the kids will go off it within a day or so. 'Cept for grapes. They'll eat those by the pound ... which leads to yet another problem.

Oranges I can't be near.
Peaches and apricots are near impossible to get
None of the kids likes raisins (yet they all love grapes. *shakes head*)
Apples and apples ... two of the three kids are too small to even manage to get a bite around one. That means their mother has to spend time cutting them up ... and most will get wasted anyhow.
Watermelon .... don't even go there.

unclehobart
1/09/07, 10:04am
Now you're just being silly.Aww... c'mon. I know you can Red Green something up.

tonksy
1/09/07, 10:06am
You can roll apple slices in a little lemon juice and dehydrate them in little slices...you could even sprinkle with brown sugar and cinnamon.
You's have to slice them but that's what you doing with the meat as well :shrug:

Professur
1/09/07, 10:08am
Of course I can. But the problem is what happened to Highway. Large batches incur large risk.






Besides .... I'd never get away with it until I bag a whitetail.

Professur
1/09/07, 10:09am
You can roll apple slices in a little lemon juice and dehydrate them in little slices...you could even sprinkle with brown sugar and cinnamon.
You's have to slice them but that's what you doing with the meat as well :shrug:

I let the missus have the first shot at fruit. She tried doing bananas, apple slices and orange slices all in one batch. The lot went into the bin.

highwayman
1/09/07, 11:20am
Aww... c'mon. I know you can Red Green something up.

Somehow duct tape does not quite fit the venue outside this possum lodge disscussion...

tonksy
1/09/07, 11:23am
I let the missus have the first shot at fruit. She tried doing bananas, apple slices and orange slices all in one batch. The lot went into the bin.

Did she use lemon juice? It helps to keep the fruit from browning.

SouthernN'Proud
1/09/07, 11:25am
The only beef jerky I get is from the local Menonite grocery. It's expensive, but dayyyuuum.

Professur
1/09/07, 11:30am
Did she use lemon juice? It helps to keep the fruit from browning.

I suggested doing one thing at a time to learn how it would work. She knew better. I walked away.

The kids are going to school this morning with jerky in their lunches.

Inkara1
1/09/07, 01:48pm
None of the kids likes raisins (yet they all love grapes. *shakes head*)

Raisins are good!

I grew up watching the California Raisins (http://www.tvacres.com/admascots_california.htm) singing "I Heard It Through the Grapevine." :D

(Oddly enough, in 1988, the sales of California Raisin products, such as plush figures, etc., grossed more than California farmers made selling actual raisins. wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Raisins))

Gonz
1/14/07, 07:43pm
That's next year. I missed the season this year because I changed bow and I'm really not happy with this new one's reliability (or my reliability with it) in the field. Nailing the 10 ring in a shootoff is one thing, but the valley is really sloppy and it's a bitch hitting my anchor point without effort.

Use a 30-30. Makes venison jerky happen sooner.;)

Professur
1/15/07, 09:33am
If it was a main source of food, I'd be right there with ya, Gonz .... but it's not. Therefore, I fully intend to give the animal as good a head start as I can.

With a 30-30 the animal doesn't know you're there ... because you're not even there yet. You can be completely upwind and he'll still never sent you at those ranges. With a bow, I've got to get well within sniffing range. There's better odds that the one I'll take isn't the smart deer.

Nixy
1/15/07, 09:40am
mmmm banana chips

I don't know how to make them...just how to buy them...I'm sure I could figure it out but I don't have a dehydrater so it'd be a wee bit difficult.

chcr
1/15/07, 09:48am
If it was a main source of food, I'd be right there with ya, Gonz .... but it's not. Therefore, I fully intend to give the animal as good a head start as I can.

With a 30-30 the animal doesn't know you're there ... because you're not even there yet. You can be completely upwind and he'll still never sent you at those ranges. With a bow, I've got to get well within sniffing range. There's better odds that the one I'll take isn't the smart deer.

Now I understood that you're supposed to sit high in a tree (in a comfy chair of course) with your high powered, semi-automatic weapon and sprinkle "doe juice" and bait all over the ground, then wait for the deer to be irresistably drawn to you.

Oh look, I forgot about the alcohol. Evidently, you're supposed to be drunk as well. I guess being half-smashed is what gives the deer (and the cows and the other "hunters") a "sporting chance" huh?

Sounds more like fishing to me but I'm told it's hunting. :shrug:

Gonz
1/15/07, 09:53am
No, no, no. Buy a small piece of land. Plant clover all over it. Spend the year putting piles of corn & other goodies in or near the same spot, near your lean-to resting spot.

Or, go to the mountains & start walking/stalking.

I've always prefered the latter.

Professur
1/15/07, 10:09am
Gonz .... baiting and food plots are illegal in Quebec.

Chic, we all eagerly await what you'd like to see hunting restricted to.

Simply, how I intend to hunt, is from a ground blind, after having tracked the animal in it's natural habitat ... without spooking it. I won't ever be 30' up in anything that doesn't have jet engines and wings.

Nixy
1/15/07, 06:55pm
Gonz .... baiting and food plots are illegal in Quebec.

Chic, we all eagerly await what you'd like to see hunting restricted to.

Simply, how I intend to hunt, is from a ground blind, after having tracked the animal in it's natural habitat ... without spooking it. I won't ever be 30' up in anything that doesn't have jet engines and wings.

30'? pffft that's child's play!

I go up 20 stories on a regular basis...in a steel basket suspended by cables :D

Hell, I'd venture to guess that I've been on a ladder neigh on 30' (vertical with a cage)

Professur
1/15/07, 07:12pm
Wanna impress me? 30', no cage, stand up, fire a bow, and hit a target 30 yards away, within 2" of centre. Then I'll be impressed. I'll still think you're an idiot for even trying it, but I'll be impressed.

Nixy
1/15/07, 07:17pm
I've stood at the edge of roofs before...I mean...I've said too much!

GrandCaravanSE
10/24/08, 03:25pm
Don't you watch "Good Eats" with Alton Brown. he did a whole show about that.

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/beef-jerky-recipe/index.html

Here you go, get rid of those dehydrators, i have made my own with the box fan and it works great. the only thing is that you can't reuse the airfilters agian. other then that you can make alot.

samcurry
10/26/08, 01:05pm
Prof, deer season starts in less than a month here for shotgun. Havent bow hunted in 5 years. Was gonna start it back up but the bow disappeared along with much else while i was in an extended away from home. (hmmm...) fortunately i had me guns with me.
Anyways i think all the meat will become jerky this year. The other half has made comment of being out of summer sausage for her and the boys. But i figure she can go herself or get her dad to foot the bill for it this year.
On the otherhand me and the boys will enjoy the spoils while they are with me.
If im lucky enough to tag 2 deer then SS will be enjoyed too.

catocom
10/26/08, 02:51pm
I'm hoping there will be some extra ground deer around this year.
Can't hunt, but looking to buy.
Maybe I'll get up early one or two morns and see if I can catch one in my field.

Professur
10/27/08, 08:59am
What's your draw, Sam? You were a 27.5, weren't you?

samcurry
10/28/08, 07:24am
yea with an overdraw on it. otherwise tack a couple inches on it.
We are doing alot of router/sonic wall work for mathews. We are trying to get them to just give us a few solocams in trade. I would give my left nut for a solocam switchback.

paul_valaru
10/28/08, 10:48am
yea with an overdraw on it. otherwise tack a couple inches on it.
We are doing alot of router/sonic wall work for mathews. We are trying to get them to just give us a few solocams in trade. I would give my left nut for a solocam switchback.

For sure!

(what is a solocam?)