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In the girl's nightly prayers we always have this blurb about trying our vegetables, ok? Well tonight Malory is screwing her nose up at the chicken pot pie because it has peas and carrots. She won't even try it. So Rob goes "Remember what you said in your prayers?" to which I add "You told baby Jesus that you would eat your peas and carrots"....Horrible tacits, I know.
How do you get your kids to eat theire veggies? I'm thinking if nice, fresh from the oven (not frozen) flaky chicken pot pie isn't going to do it I'm at a loss as to what will.
Professur
2/17/06, 06:38pm
I tend to (pardon the pun) the carrot and stick approach. "You're gonna eat them. Now, what would you like me to put on them to make them taste better?" Usually a little HP sauce, or a drink (sips) to wash down the taste is all it takes.
How are they on raw veggies? I know I don't dare have raw carrots anywhere near the kids, or I'm going hungry.
Marlowe does well, she likes salad, fruits, and can always be counted on to eat broccoli....Malory eats meat and starch and cheese. Period.
Oh! And Malory has this lovely gag thing down pat. If you make her eat something she doesn't like she'll just throw it right back up on the table. Very disconcerting.
Professur
2/17/06, 06:48pm
Then you pick it back up on the fork, and shove it right back down again.
I've always found that leaving them sitting with their supper in front of them while everyone who's finished eating gets icecream or sorbet is one helluva motivator.
They don't get treats if they don't eat their dinner. That's not an issue. I just don't understand why she won't eat anything new or any vegetable matter. I was never a picky eater, Marlowe is not a picky eater...well...she has her moments but usually she eats okay.
Professur
2/17/06, 06:59pm
Attention.
We just left her sitting at the table by herself for a half an hour. No dice.
It also depends on the veggie. I hate peas but can eat them. Get a lima bean in the same room as me & all hell breaks loose. The gag reflex may be real. On the other hand, tell her if its real, you'll beleive her if she throws up.
But she does throw up. For example, sweet potatoes. She'll freak OUT AND NOT EAT AND THEN WHEN WE MAKE HER TRY (sorry caps lock) them she'll puke, then she'll realize they were good and finish the rest of them. Weird child.
I have never ever tried to make my kid eat veggies. I had one rule only when he was little: Everything served had to be represented on his plate. If he didn't want to eat it, fine. Leave it there. Usually he forgot he wasn't gonna eat it, and threw in a bite by mistake, and noticed it wasn't all that bad. Or maybe he ate it the next time.
He had a very brief period where he said "no" to veggies ( I think he must have picked up somewhere that kids aren't "supposed" to eat it). I said: "Good! Those darned veggies make you grow too fast anyways, how will I afford bying new clothes all the time. Hey.. What are you doing..? Leave that carrot alone. No.. I said leave it. Noo! Don't eat the... Oh darn. *grumpy face* "
When he decided he didn't like cauliflower at three, I pointed out how they looked like trees.. "Haha, I am a giant, eating the trees of the forest.."
Oh, and the most important rule when it comes to making kids eat veggies: Don't overcook it. I didn't like boiled carrots as a kid, when I started making it myself I realized why..
Only once in my life have I been "forced" (as in, may not leave until..) an item of food. I refuse to taste it even today because of it. Many of the foods I wouldn't eat because I didn't like it as a kid, I have grown to like inmy own time. Tomatoes took me about 26 years. :P
Yeah...i think I'm gonna go with the whatever attitude and see if that works.
"Whatever, don't eat it but no treats for you".
I never withheld treats either. The only thing, if he didn't want to eat what was served, he'd get no replacement.
Anywhoo, I didn't have much problems. Or, the problem would after some time be this: putting a bowl of veggies on the table, turning around to fetch the poatoes, only to turn back and find one single piece of carrot left in the bowl - the rest on his plate. :mope:
We're lucky. V2.0 doesn't really balk at veggies. He does, however, occasionally balk at meats. He'll yak it back up at ya, too. This was all power play, he didn't wanna, and I told him he was gonna. I'm with Prof, put it back on the fork and jam it back down there. This was at my father-in-law's however, and I got overruled by the female contingent, especially his step-gramma.
Grandpa, OTOH, was on my fuckin' side. He caved, though. Power of the box.
I got overruled by the female contingent
It's awful how often that happens.
Does Malory maybe get it from her dad?
I did like Starya. And now they eat anything under the sun, and are always ready and wanting to try even the oddest and most disgusting looking things.
I always right from the start made it clear that I didn`t give a shit whether they ate anything at all. I served it, the mantra was if you don`t want it don`t eat it. If you don`t like something that`s in it, pick it out or don`t eat. However, I will not be making a substitute. It`s all power struggle. If you don`t give em the struggle they soon find it`s stupid going hungry for nothing, they`ll eat.
I will make substitutes for things I *know* they don`t like. Each child has one or two things.
You want her to see food as a thing to enjoy with gusto and (no pun intended) relish. You don`t want her to see food as a game to play with mom.
Something that worked wonders for me, NO candy treats at the grocery store. The treat is that they each get to pick one fruit or veggie at the store to try. And maybe you do too. And you take one (just one cause they cost and if noone actually likes it it`s a waste of money) of the really funky ass looking things (starfruit, blood oranges, that kinda stuff). And have a good game of everyone in the kitchen giggling at it and going wtf and trying to get the prickles off or figure out how to peel it, and tasting it is all part of the game. Some will be freaking disgusting, some will be a joy and become a part of your weekly list cause EVERYONE likes it.
*tip* Noone needs to or will ever know till you tell them that you put carrots, lentils, spinach, zucchini, eggplant, etcetera etcetera into the blender and poured it into the spaghetti sauce/chili/homemade soup.
Gato_Solo
2/18/06, 05:21am
When I was little, I hated broccolli. My father, OTOH, loved it. I was always given a smaller serving, but I also had a habit of 'yakking it up' when I was told to eat it. I also learned that an unexpected backhand was sure to follow for wasting food, however, so I learned to eat it.
My kid used to literally drink A-1 steak sauce (http://www.a1sauce.com/intro.htm) (caution sound!)
we never tried to force him to eat specific things
just to get him to STOP eating too much of certain things
like Steak heh heh
he got a roaring case of the trots when he was still diapers,
it turned out he was chuggin' the worcestershire sauce!
He also got onna kick where he’d eat beef bullion cubes
weird assed kid
Oh yes the joys of parenthood.
yeah one time when I was a kid I told my Dad I wasn't
gonna eat my baked potato and he mashed it in my face,
only resulting in first degree burns…
I love baked potatoes today!
Does Malory maybe get it from her dad?
Nope, he'll eat anything :shrug:
I'm gonna try with the "I don't care" attitude and take solace in the fact that she likes her princess vitamins.
I learned early on that if you swallowed it quickly you wouldn't taste it and the spanking could be avoided. ;)
unclehobart
2/18/06, 09:26am
That doesn't work with liver. That taste hangs for hours.
That doesn't work with liver. That taste hangs for hours.
That's the truth.
unclehobart
2/18/06, 10:28am
I usually got a whipping regardless of eating dinner or not. Eating got you five lashes with the belt. Not eating got you five lashes with the buckle end.
Oh, if he truly doesn't like it, I won't make him eat it. It's refusing stuff he's never even TRIED that I will not deal with. He's got wierd tastes of his own, too. Black olives, asparagus, broccoli, he loves the stuff.
It's interesting how a spanking seems to be the only effective method here. I'd be interested to see what flavio suggests be tried instead.
Yeah when they develop a 'taste' for boi's
it will be to late to spank 'em heh heh
It's interesting how a spanking seems to be the only effective method here.what part of my kids eat anything under the sun makes my method/Starya`s ineffective? :alienhuh:
I'd be interested to see what flavio suggests be tried instead.that was not called for.
I was just thinking about sume of the stuff I was forced to eat when I was a kid that I don't eat now...
1. Brussel Sprouts (just ick)
2. Liver (does anyone besides me understand the liver's function?)
3. Worms (to be fair, my big sister made me eat those).
BeardofPants
2/18/06, 03:16pm
I always ate my vegetables. Family rule was eat yer veggies first, then the meat. So I knew I had to suck it up and eat the yucky stuff first, before I could get to the "good" stuff.
Chic? I made MY lil' brother eat pond scum. Older sisters, eh? :lol:
greenfreak
2/18/06, 06:18pm
I hated veggies and I'm still very picky about which ones I'll eat.
Most of that came from my mother's less-than-optimal cooking skills. Everything was boiled to death, bland and soggy. She loved to make peas, green beans and beets, all of which I hated. I loved broccoli and cauliflower, and carrots were ok but for some reason, she didn't make them as much.
Every once in a while she'd make broccoli with cheese sauce, that was awesome. And once she found out that we liked spinach (especially creamed spinach), we had that a lot. Candied carrots were out of this world, I would ALWAYS eat those but you're really going way over to the unhealthy end with that.
Otherwise, I'd slather the peas/green beans in italian dressing or A1 steak sauce. Killed the taste. I disliked asparagus back then but now I love it. Same thing with almost-raw squash, zucchini.
I guess it's all about finding out what they actually will eat, cooked or uncooked. There were four of us so someone was always unhappy with something. But you've got better odds with two. :)
That's the thing with Malory, she won't try anything. If it's new she ain't eating it.
I never forced veggies down my kids' throats either. They like what they like. They would try veggies and if they didn't like it, I wouldn't prepare it for them that way again. They wouldn't have issues with trying it prepared another way but if they didn't like it, I wouldn't force it. I just think about the things I was forced to eat when I was a child that I genuinely didn't like. A few I learned to like, but most things I didn't like back then, I still don't like now.
HomeLAN - my middle child was like V2.0 - he wouldn't eat meat .. no steak .. no chicken .. no fish .. if I made spaghetti sauce with hamburget or chili, I had to crumble the hamburger really well - no chunks. He eats beef and poultry now but still won't eat pork. The one time he did (a few years ago), his body rejected it and he got really sick. We could never figure out what the reason was for his not wanting meat. I still say he was just too damned lazy to chew it up :D
That's the thing with Malory, she won't try anything. If it's new she ain't eating it.that`s cause you want her to ;)
I just have serious issue with letting her eat nothing but chicken and rice, chicken noodle soup, and canned spaghetti....but that's all she'll eat.
SouthernN'Proud
2/18/06, 11:51pm
We have a slightly different dilemma. The 12.97 year old had serious stomach issues as an infant and small child, and a few have lingered still. Hence, she is afraid to try certain things, and the reluctance has bled over into things she just doesn't want to try.
Since I came into the picture, she has discovered that she likes some things I've asked her to try. A bite is all I require; if you don't like it, say so. That's fine. Being picky myself, I ain't gonna force her to eat anything. For some ungodly reason, she still don't like cornbread. Oh the horror. But I can make up the identical batter and fry it like pancakes and she'll eat it.
I just have serious issue with letting her eat nothing but chicken and rice, chicken noodle soup, and canned spaghetti....but that's all she'll eat.I know it.
But, cold as it may seem, Ethiopia has shown us that they can go a day or a week or month without fruit/greens/much at all without discernable harm. And in the meantime, you`re ignoring her eating habits altogether, praising the hell out of the other one and discussing with (the one that eats) and Rob the glory that is that night`s broccoli. She`ll soon be jealous and feel like she`s left out and not fitting in, figure out that it is self inflicted, and start it up on her own terms, really.
The really cold one would be running out of chicken, rice, chicken noodle soup, and canned spaghetti. A couple days of PB&J while the rest of you are gushing over the whatever splendid dinner would make her think twice too. Kids are too selfish to starve themselves or let themselves be *out of the loop*. You just have to figure out how to best work that to your advantage with her, and play her better than she`s playing you right now.
For some ungodly reason, she still don't like cornbread. Oh the horror. But I can make up the identical batter and fry it like pancakes and she'll eat it.I am of exactly the same opinion as she is on that. :lloyd:
I guess it boils down to not seeming so gritty in pancakes :sick:
SouthernN'Proud
2/19/06, 12:36am
*ahem*
My cornbread is not gritty. It is ambrosia.
I don't eat many veggies...I ate them all as a wee one but slowly grew out of them...carrots mostly...I loved and now I hate. When I was little my mom never used to cater to my tastes, she figured I liked it the year before and I should still like it. I ate many a spaghetti dinner with just parmesan cheese sprinkled on my noodles...I liked it like that cause I definately didn't want the veggie ridden sauce...I also picked the kidney beans outta the chili and ate only that. She did her damndest to get me to eat veggies...no alternatives were offered and I missed out on whatever part of the meal had veggies in it cause no substitute was offered...I never did start eatting it and eventually she started taking out some meat and tomato sauce for me before adding the veggies to the spaghetti sauce and putting the veggies for the chili in the rice instead (since everyone else mixed their chilli with rice anyway but I've NEVER liked rice). Her forcing me to eat it would have done no good cause I ACTUALLY gag on carrots, onions, mushrooms...peas, corn and beets I've always loved. Broccolli, celery, cucumber I can eat but I don't enjoy...maybe if you can somehow ensure her that she only has to try one bite...and if she doesn't like it you won't force it...because if something really does make you gag nothing sucks more than having it in your mouth :(
We've got a couple picky ones, the main thing for us is that we cook. They eat. We don't force them to eat, but if what we're having isn't what they like, they can eat it or not. But they sure as hell ain't getting a PB & J or a can of Ravioli as a replacement either.
We've got a couple picky ones, the main thing for us is that we cook. They eat. We don't force them to eat, but if what we're having isn't what they like, they can eat it or not. But they sure as hell ain't getting a PB & J or a can of Ravioli as a replacement either.
How many do you have under your roof now anyway?
Still six, the oldest turns 18 this July, but she's still only a junior.
Still six, the oldest turns 18 this July, but she's still only a junior.
Man...you guys should do reality tv :D It's the newest thing, anything that made a good sitcom 20 years ago makes good reality tv now...I'm thinking Brady bunch :D
Here's the story... of a man named Brady... who was shot in the head protecting Ronald Reagan... and he introduced... a bill to Congress... and it passed so now we have to wait for guns... the Brady Bill... the Brady Bill... that's the way there became the Brady Bill. :D
Gato_Solo
2/19/06, 04:36am
*ahem*
My cornbread is not gritty. It is ambrosia.
*snicker* How much sugar do you put into the mix? *snicker*
Once again Les displays her Supermom skillz!
mondomondo
2/19/06, 10:26am
Tomatoes took me about 26 years. :P
So I guess there's hope yet for my daughter, then. :D
paul_valaru
2/19/06, 10:33am
So I guess there's hope yet for my daughter, then. :D
32 no tomatoes yet, so give up hope
BeardofPants
2/19/06, 03:43pm
God, I forgot how I used to hate tomatoes. Now they're in practically every second thing I cook. I remember just after I discovered how much I liked them (thanks grandma), I ate so many of them, I got hives. :lloyd:
It took tacos for me to see the light. Or taste the taste.
No taco-jokes, Prof.
unclehobart
2/19/06, 04:59pm
I wonder what a Norwegian taco tastes like. It probably bears no resemblence to what we know as Mexican cuisine... which bears only marginal resemblence to what they truly know as Mexican cuisine.
I remember eating 'fajitas' in New Zealand and remarking how non-'yankee' fajita they were. They were never made from beef or chicken... but rather of venison. The salsa was somewhere between a sweet relish and marmalade. It was tasty... but seriously askew.
Grab an Old El Paso-kit, and there ya go. (Although that specific one is not my favourite)
We've got a couple picky ones, the main thing for us is that we cook. They eat. We don't force them to eat, but if what we're having isn't what they like, they can eat it or not. But they sure as hell ain't getting a PB & J or a can of Ravioli as a replacement either.
I grew up with the same rules, but it was a family of seven. Some things, you just can't do. :shrug:
Nal, I'm not sure what his deal is. He'll eat meats, but only prepared certain ways. He'll do chicken nuggets, and my fried chicken (hell, everyone will eat my fried chicken :D ), but not broiled or grilled. It's...odd.
Cornbread, properly done, is NOT gritty. Sugar be damned.
mondomondo
2/19/06, 07:47pm
I wonder what a Norwegian taco tastes like. It probably bears no resemblence to what we know as Mexican cuisine... which bears only marginal resemblence to what they truly know as Mexican cuisine.
You mean Taco Bell?
*dodges tomatoes*
Seriously (and don't be a taco snob now), but all of the Old El Paso products can be found on European shelves, providing a reasonable facsimile of the time-saver kitchen taco meals we eat here in the US of A.
That said, Starya's got some Ortega Chipotle taco mix coming in the mail. Hope it's good. (Should have tried it first, probably.)
That said, I ate at an alleged "Mexican" restaurant in Ede in the Netherlands, and what they serve bears no resemblance to Mexican food whatsoever. Then again, tell me where I can get anything resembling Australian food at Outback.
Nal, I'm not sure what his deal is. He'll eat meats, but only prepared certain ways. He'll do chicken nuggets, and my fried chicken (hell, everyone will eat my fried chicken :D ), but not broiled or grilled. It's...odd.
Cornbread, properly done, is NOT gritty. Sugar be damned.I betcha for him it just boils down to the texture. I grew up feeling like that, and I`m still like that.
and all the cornbread I`ve had has grit in it. Maybe you don`t call grit what I call grit. Hard bits. (again, texture)
Okay, case in point. Tonight we made a macaroni and cheese with ground meat bake. Noodles, cheese, and ground beef. These are all things she'll eat normally but because it was a different appearance to her she wouldn't touch it.
I said "fine, don't eat but don't ask for anything else"
She said "I don't want anything the rest of the night" which means she accepts my conditions.
*sigh....
3 or 4 days of that she`ll figure out it`s stupid and cut it out.
Don't worry tonks. Kids can be stubborn, but healthy kids with food available don't starve themselves. For long. ;)
That said, Starya's got some Ortega Chipotle taco mix coming in the mail. Hope it's good. (Should have tried it first, probably.)
Say what? No quality control? *handonhip
:D
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