View Full Version : Extreme shakes, nausea, cold, fever, stomach cramps
BeardofPants
11/27/05, 02:25pm
The BF has all of the above symptoms; it's about 2 hours before the doctor opens - Dave, you online? Can you give me an idea what this might be? His feet and hands are extremely cold, he can't get warm, dry lips, nausea, extreme shaking that has now subdued, headache, fevered hot head, possible heart palpitations, etc. We both ate tuna steak last night, but I'm not affected. Was walking around in the mid-day heat with it yesterday, but had it on ice. Food poisoning?
Gato_Solo
11/27/05, 02:31pm
The BF has all of the above symptoms; it's about 2 hours before the doctor opens - Dave, you online? Can you give me an idea what this might be? His feet and hands are extremely cold, he can't get warm, dry lips, nausea, extreme shaking that has now subdued, headache, fevered hot head, possible heart palpitations, etc. We both ate tuna steak last night, but I'm not affected. Was walking around in the mid-day heat with it yesterday, but had it on ice. Food poisoning?
Doctor, NOW (http://www.webmd.com/hw/skin_wounds/hw96036.asp)!!!
BeardofPants
11/27/05, 02:36pm
I dont think it's that - he's not allergic to insect bites, and doesn't appear to have been bitten.
Gato_Solo
11/27/05, 02:46pm
I dont think it's that - he's not allergic to insect bites, and doesn't appear to have been bitten.
Might not be allergies. Could be toxins, too. I don't know about any poisonous insects or spiders, but an allergic reaction and a toxic reaction are easily confused. Better to be safe than sorry...
He probably ate someting that didn't agree with him. The shakes are effect of the fever. Or the flu.
MrBishop
11/27/05, 02:52pm
I dont think it's that - he's not allergic to insect bites, and doesn't appear to have been bitten.
Two things...allergic reactions to foods, solvents and insect bites are worst the second time around and every time thereafter. He may have had a similar reaction to either the food or another reactive agent prior and shrugged it off, but this one's worst. My first penecillin reaction was minor... a few spots/rash...no biggie and I didn't link it to anything. My second reaction put me in the hospital.
Second thing....appendicitis! Try to locate that pain!
Gato_Solo
11/27/05, 03:04pm
Two things...allergic reactions to foods, solvents and insect bites are worst the second time around and every time thereafter. He may have had a similar reaction to either the food or another reactive agent prior and shrugged it off, but this one's worst. My first penecillin reaction was minor... a few spots/rash...no biggie and I didn't link it to anything. My second reaction put me in the hospital.
Second thing....appendicitis! Try to locate that pain!
Sounds like she was describing general malais. Body aches, fever, cold/clammy, rapid pulse, shakes, nausea, vomiting, point to three different things. The most common would be a biologic agent, such as bacteria, virii, and the second would be toxic, such as insect/spider bites, or accidental ingestion. And the third is allergies. Since he and BoP ate the same things, you can assume that it's not ingested, so the food-borne infection is out. What piqued my interest was that they had been outdoors all day. Since it's spring in NZ, the insects/spiders/creepy-crawlies are beginning to become active. I hope you're correct, though, because if they wait too long and it IS a bug bite, he could be in for some serious long-term damage...
BeardofPants
11/27/05, 03:08pm
the pain is too high for appendicitis.. It is upper left quadrant under rib cage - feels like cramping; he has diarrhoea, and is extremely cold, but hot to touch. Hands still have poor circulation, as well as feet.
MrBishop
11/27/05, 03:09pm
With any luck, the reason she's offline is that they decided to go the hospital route. Good luck BoP's BF!
BeardofPants
11/27/05, 03:12pm
We weren't out all day. He was home studying, I was out shopping for food. Stupid santa parade meant that I had to walk a fair distance in the mid-day heat with the shopping, including the tuna. Plus was on a hot bus for about 20 mins (bus deviated from my normal route due to santa parade, so had to walk about 15 mins in the heat), so there was about half an hour to 45 mins with raw tuna on ice. Thing is, you don't overcook tuna steak, so it was relatively raw when we ate it (which is how you're supposed to prep the steak).... BF felt at the time that it was a bit undercooked.
MrBishop
11/27/05, 03:13pm
the pain is too high for appendicitis.. It is upper left quadrant under rib cage - feels like cramping; he has diarrhoea, and is extremely cold, but hot to touch. Hands still have poor circulation, as well as feet.Palpitations or a minor heart-attack?
Increase his fluide intake. It it's food poisoning, that'll help. There's no guarantee that you both will have a reaction to food poisoning BTW. If his defence machanisms were weakened (just got over being sick, in the process of getting sick, alcohol etc..) then he can have a reaction while you might not. In addition, your cut might've been OK and his, not so hot.
Hydration is a good way to lessen blood-borne reactions...even allergies.
BeardofPants
11/27/05, 03:18pm
Yeah, his cut of tuna was more grisly, and it was a larger cut, so it could have been more undercooked than mine. He feels really thirsty, but every time he drinks, he feels nauseated.
A.B.Normal
11/27/05, 03:18pm
With any luck, the reason she's offline is that they decided to go the hospital route. Good luck BoP's BF!
Yeah,hopefully they've gone to the doctor,almost sounds like Meningitis,which usually displays as Flu like symptoms and can be fatal..
MrBishop
11/27/05, 03:24pm
BoP.... get offline and get him to a doctor...especially is he goes pale, or starts being unintelligible.
Fuck it! Take him now!
Gato_Solo
11/27/05, 03:27pm
BoP.... get offline and get him to a doctor...especially is he goes pale, or starts being unintelligible.
Fuck it! Take him now!
:wstupid: (sorry, but there's no "I'm with Him" smilie)
http://64.235.243.33/~otc/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4865&stc=1
MrBishop
11/27/05, 03:34pm
Here ya go :)
unclehobart
11/27/05, 03:38pm
Yeah... admit him. He sounds like hes rapidly dehydrating. They will probably need to rapid IV him up to stability.
A.B.Normal
11/27/05, 03:40pm
Tuna is usually safe to eat raw .If it was spoiled and became toxic cooking it wouldn't make it less toxic ,just kill the tiny critters releasing "more" toxin.
Gato_Solo
11/27/05, 03:57pm
Tuna is usually safe to eat raw .If it was spoiled and became toxic cooking it wouldn't make it less toxic ,just kill the tiny critters releasing "more" toxin.
Almost any fish can be eaten raw...provided there are no parasites. I'm still leaning towards an insect or spider bite. Spider most likely (http://www.biodiversity.govt.nz/news/media/current/16dec04.html)...
A.B.Normal
11/27/05, 04:03pm
Almost any fish can be eaten raw...provided there are no parasites. I'm still leaning towards an insect or spider bite. Spider most likely (http://www.biodiversity.govt.nz/news/media/current/16dec04.html)...
The effects of Katipo and Red Back poisoning
Lactrodectus venom is a neurotoxin that particularly affects the nervous system. The venom of both the
red back and the red katipo work is similar ways, but the effects of the red back may seem more severe
as it is larger and is likely to inject more venom.
The bite is usually slight and may not be felt. Symptoms may arise up to an hour later and begin as a
reddish lump with red streaks spreading out from it.
Abdominal pain may occur, spreading to other areas and becoming more severe. Other symptoms
include increased blood pressure, nausea and perspiration.
Most patients recover from a bite with rest and a cold pack over the puncture area. If symptoms
worsen seek medical help. An anti-venom is available that can be administered up to 8 hours from the
time of the bite and will relieve symptoms within 24 hours.
A bite would be noticeable,we have Black Widows around here so you learn to recognize bites.
Hopefully BOP will post back when she can and let us know what the Doctor said.
it's about 2 hours before the doctor opens
What about this wonderful socialist medicine? They don't have 24 hour hospitals/clinics? Or is that not a problem in Kiwiland yet?
MrBishop
11/27/05, 05:23pm
Aah.... Spot's on :)
So, Dave...whatcha think?
dry lips, nausea, extreme shaking that has now subdued, headache, fevered hot head, possible heart palpitations...It is upper left quadrant under rib cage - feels like cramping; he has diarrhoea, and is extremely cold, but hot to touch sorry for the late reply...
very dehydrated. could be galbladder or liver. tough to tell without seeing and examining him but my money is on gallbladder.
and best get him to a hospital for hydration at the very least.
BeardofPants
11/27/05, 06:28pm
What about this wonderful socialist medicine? They don't have 24 hour hospitals/clinics? Or is that not a problem in Kiwiland yet?
Yes they have 24 hour emergency clinics that cost an arm and a leg.
Just got back from the doctor's ... she reckons it's food poisoning; now we play the waiting game.
Gato, I've had a spider bite before, trust me, you know when you have one of those. ::shudder::
BeardofPants
11/27/05, 06:30pm
Oh, and thanks for all the input. :)
did she at least give him something for the nausea?
BeardofPants
11/27/05, 06:40pm
Yep, and for the diarrhoea, as well as some stuff to rehydrate him.
MrBishop
11/27/05, 07:32pm
Glad to hear that it's going well :)
Yes they have 24 hour emergency clinics that cost an arm and a leg.
Just got back from the doctor's ... she reckons it's food poisoning; now we play the waiting game.
I'm glad he's not dying.
So the 24 hour clinics aren't part of the socialist medicine program?
The BF has all of the above symptoms; it's about 2 hours before the doctor opens - Dave, you online? Can you give me an idea what this might be? His feet and hands are extremely cold, he can't get warm, dry lips, nausea, extreme shaking that has now subdued, headache, fevered hot head, possible heart palpitations, etc. We both ate tuna steak last night, but I'm not affected. Was walking around in the mid-day heat with it yesterday, but had it on ice. Food poisoning?
sounds like the flu-as for heart palps....dehydration can cause that. The shaking is from the fever......Hope all is well, goodluck, feel better! :sadhug:
AlphaTroll
11/29/05, 09:17am
My medical expertise tell me your man is pregnant.
Gato_Solo
11/29/05, 09:20am
My medical expertise tell me your man is pregnant.
I'd pay to see that delivery...just for the gross-out factor. :sick:
My medical expertise tell me your man is pregnant.
:laugh5:
BeardofPants
11/29/05, 02:53pm
If he was pregnant, I'd hate to imagine that that kind of gas is normal. :sick:
Day 3, he's back to work. I can't believe all that came from food poisoning. :eek:
Anyone remember the old Cosby Show episode where all the guys were preg? Bill Cosby gave birth to a six-foot submarine sandwich. :D
Professur
11/29/05, 03:08pm
Um, no Inky. Let's keep it that way.
If he was pregnant, I'd hate to imagine that that kind of gas is normal. :sick:
Day 3, he's back to work. I can't believe all that came from food poisoning. :eek:
the worst is not knowing if it's just gas, or if it's bringing a friend to the party.
greenfreak
11/29/05, 03:19pm
:sick: I believe that's called a "shart" if I'm not mistaken.
It's certainly messy, whatever it's called. Last time that happened to me, the undies were left in the trash can of the public can here at the office.
I'd be afraid to go commando the rest of the day if that happened to me; the likelihood of a secondary attack is too great.
Better than going to the afternoon meeting with that particular eau de toilet hanging about you.
Believe me, those shorts weren't going to be salvaged without a full scalding wash - including bleach.
woodman19_99
11/29/05, 04:43pm
:sick: I believe that's called a "shart" if I'm not mistaken.
I I believe it is also known as a G&L Fart. Ya'know, Gambled and Lost?
MrBishop
11/29/05, 05:10pm
I believe that it's called :tmi:
(Too much indigestion)
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