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Dave
12/13/04, 10:15pm
http://money.cnn.com/2004/12/13/pf/autos/bc.autos.ford.suvs.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes

Ford Motor Co. will kill off the Ford Excursion, its largest sport utility vehicle..... Apart from the Excursion, a mid-size SUV from Ford's lineup will also be killed.

YAY! 2 down..several hundred to go...

PT
12/13/04, 11:35pm
I'm sure they'll just come out with something else even bigger and with more opportunities to accessorize.

Winky
12/14/04, 12:20am
Monster muscle cars in the 60's
Pintos and Vegas post Arab oil embargo
Yuppie Beemers then Soccer Mom Mini-Van's

SUV's

what's next your Dad's Oldsmobile?

PostCode
12/14/04, 12:51am
Na. They'll start going after those three banger Geo next. You know, the ones that get 50+ to the gallon. After that it's bikes because to many people are skidding and the residue is polluting the ground water.

Winky
12/14/04, 01:36am
Yeah the Yugo was ahead of its time lol
Wait til these (http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2004/11/22/285971.html) start tangling with SUV's

PT
12/14/04, 01:47am
http://www.theautochannel.com/N/news/2004/11/22/285971.1-lg.jpg
I'm not sure the wife and I could fit in there, besides the fact we'd need three more just to take the kids out to eat. So, 60mpg, times 4. 15 mpg net. Huh. That's about what my Suburban gets.

Leslie
12/14/04, 01:49am
I saw one of those around Hallowe'en time.

It looked very silly bootin down the lane in the parkin lot I must say :lloyd:

Luis G
12/14/04, 12:39pm
We've had the smart for years, it is really small and expensive. With that money I'd buy a mini anyday instead.

SouthernN'Proud
12/14/04, 03:24pm
Those square things Honda makes (I think it's Honda) are just about the dumbest looking things I have ever seen on the road. If you're in the market for a vehicle that just screams, "I have no flair in my life, no originality, and no desire to ever be anything except a statistic", there's the ride for you, man. I thought nothing would ever top the Volkswagon Thing, but of course...


http://web.infoave.net/~hfoster/s_thing2.jpg

tonksy
12/14/04, 03:45pm
you can't haul a tree or a barbie doll house in a mini. come to think of it i doubt you could fit 2 infant carseats in a mini.

Gato_Solo
12/14/04, 03:51pm
Those square things Honda makes (I think it's Honda) are just about the dumbest looking things I have ever seen on the road. If you're in the market for a vehicle that just screams, "I have no flair in my life, no originality, and no desire to ever be anything except a statistic", there's the ride for you, man. I thought nothing would ever top the Volkswagon Thing, but of course...




Toyota makes one, too, under the Scion brand...Looks like this...

http://www.autointell-news.com/News-2003/August-2003/August-2003-2/Scion-Xb-2004-side-110.jpg

Every time I see one, I have a sudden urge to look inside the box to see what kind of car it really is. :D

Luis G
12/14/04, 03:54pm
you can't haul a tree or a barbie doll house in a mini. come to think of it i doubt you could fit 2 infant carseats in a mini.

I don't like the mini either, I was just pointing out how extreme is my disgust with the smart ;)

MrBishop
12/14/04, 04:57pm
Feh...they all beat the Reneault Kango, which is what I ended up driving around France and Spain with :P
http://home.online.no/~sipeters/Kango4.jpg

BeardofPants
12/14/04, 05:01pm
you can't haul a tree or a barbie doll house in a mini. come to think of it i doubt you could fit 2 infant carseats in a mini.

Jaysus, how big are your car-seats over there? :confused: My mother managed fine with me and my little brother each in our respective car-seats. :shrug:

DFisherman
12/14/04, 05:01pm
I miss my Renault 5. Sweet little car in the city. Cost next to nothing to run, could park anywhere. And it was such a lemon that no thief would touch it. Ran it for years until the road calcium got to the body panels. Ah well, C'est la vie.

- DFisherman

DFisherman
12/14/04, 05:04pm
Those square things Honda makes (I think it's Honda) are just about the dumbest looking things I have ever seen on the road. If you're in the market for a vehicle that just screams, "I have no flair in my life, no originality, and no desire to ever be anything except a statistic", there's the ride for you, man. I thought nothing would ever top the Volkswagon Thing, but of course...


http://web.infoave.net/~hfoster/s_thing2.jpg

If I remember rightly, these were the civilian version of the post-war Kubelwagen. The Wermach equivalent to the Willys Jeep. Or is it a later model?

Cheers,

- DFisherman

Gato_Solo
12/14/04, 05:13pm
If I remember rightly, these were the civilian version of the post-war Kubelwagen. The Wermach equivalent to the Willys Jeep. Or is it a later model?

Cheers,

- DFisherman

Later model, without the AWD platform. Basically a squared-off Super Beetle.

A.B.Normal
12/14/04, 05:18pm
Later model, without the AWD platform. Basically a squared-off Super Beetle.

The offspring of "Herbie the love bug" and a Garbage dumpster.

tonksy
12/14/04, 05:48pm
Jaysus, how big are your car-seats over there? :confused: My mother managed fine with me and my little brother each in our respective car-seats. :shrug:
not overly big but the states has specific laws and mandates as to the size of the seat and how long your child is to be in one. i remember that my sentra had almost no room after the 2 seats were in the back.

Inkara1
12/15/04, 04:31am
not overly big but the states has specific laws and mandates as to the size of the seat and how long your child is to be in one. i remember that my sentra had almost no room after the 2 seats were in the back.
5 years and 50 pounds, right?

tonksy
12/15/04, 09:11am
5 years and 50 pounds, right?
i think it's 70 lbs and a certain amount of height...but i think it's an either or thing. either you weigh enough or you are tall enough.

ClaireBear
12/15/04, 09:17am
We've had the smart for years, it is really small and expensive. With that money I'd buy a mini anyday instead.


Yup here in Blighty too...

The new C4 ... I think thats it is slightly larger with more boot space....

Anyone over the pond ever seen a Fiat Siaccento... now they are small. 'Bout the same size as the Smart but much less pricey.

I'm so pleased that Blighty have moved away from the "big is best" car addage... big is definitely NOT best... it guzzles petrol/gas like its going out of fashion, parking is a nightmare and inner town manouverability... forget it!

Give me a compact with short body length any day!

ClaireBear
12/15/04, 09:19am
I miss my Renault 5. Sweet little car in the city. Cost next to nothing to run, could park anywhere. And it was such a lemon that no thief would touch it. Ran it for years until the road calcium got to the body panels. Ah well, C'est la vie.

- DFisherman

My parents had a Renault 5 when I was little... DF you're betraying you age! :D ;)

DFisherman
12/15/04, 10:15am
My parents had a Renault 5 when I was little... DF you're betraying you age! :D ;)

In my defense, it was a used vehicle. A 1984 that I acquired in 1991 and drove until 1996.

If that's betraying my age, I better not mention my first car being a 1977 Plymouth Arrow...ah, bugger.

Cheers,

- DFisherman

Gonz
12/15/04, 10:22am
50 miles to the gallons,
with their knees on their chest,
They didn't get far but they
made up for all the rest..

In a Yugo.

Gato_Solo
12/15/04, 10:35am
In my defense, it was a used vehicle. A 1984 that I acquired in 1991 and drove until 1996.

If that's betraying my age, I better not mention my first car being a 1977 Plymouth Arrow...ah, bugger.

Cheers,

- DFisherman

Could be worse...my first car was a 1976 Chevy Nova...my second was a 1974 Toyota Corolla, my third was a 1983 Chevy Chevette, my fourth...a Caravan, my fifth, a 1985 Camry, my present 2 are a 1988 Audi 90 Quattro, and a 1998 Chrysler Sebring. At one point, I almost bought a GLH (http://www.xmission.com/~dempsey/shelby/sheldod2.htm)...but the insurance would've made the car overpriced...

ClaireBear
12/15/04, 10:41am
In my defense, it was a used vehicle. A 1984 that I acquired in 1991 and drove until 1996.

If that's betraying my age, I better not mention my first car being a 1977 Plymouth Arrow...ah, bugger.

Cheers,

- DFisherman

The model my parents had was slightly older and was a rather fetching metalic mint green...

To me men are like fine wines and high quality cheese... aging simply improves them and maturation makes them stronger... not to mention the fact that they taste an aweful lot better :brow: :D

HomeLAN
12/15/04, 10:42am
i think it's 70 lbs and a certain amount of height...but i think it's an either or thing. either you weigh enough or you are tall enough.

Under the new law, anybody under 6 has to be in a car seat or booster seat.

tonksy
12/15/04, 10:44am
Under the new law, anybody under 6 has to be in a car seat or booster seat.
good to know...thanks.

DFisherman
12/15/04, 11:46am
The model my parents had was slightly older and was a rather fetching metalic mint green...

To me men are like fine wines and high quality cheese... aging simply improves them and maturation makes them stronger... not to mention the fact that they taste an aweful lot better :brow: :D


But like wine and cheese, you take your chances the longer they age. After a while it's all vinegar and sourness. The trick is to find the right age.

Cheers,

- DFisherman

DFisherman
12/15/04, 11:49am
The model my parents had was slightly older and was a rather fetching metalic mint green...D

Mine was grey which I eventually had repainted metalic forest (deep) green. I better stop thinking about it, for I am getting stupidly nostalgic about a chunk of steel and rubber.

Cheers,

- DFisherman

Winky
12/15/04, 01:21pm
No! DF Dood!!!

Ever one list em'
1963 Ford Falcon convertible 170 cu inline six banger with two speed slush-o-matic!
1974 Ford Pinto 2.0 Liter four speed Weeeee Boom!
(Wiffie had a 1976 Chevette!)
Worked as a field Tech and they gave me brand new a Mazda GLC
Two of them actually. Racked up 14 points on my license and over 300K miles on them.
1987 Ford Mustang 2.3L purchased new in 87 Still have it still drive it goin' on 315,000 miles.
1986 Ford Mustang 2.3L
1996 Ford Probe
1992 Ford Mustang 5.0 convertible still have
1998 Ford Contour SVT. Still have!
Can ya say 'Ferd' Man?

Winky
12/15/04, 01:25pm
Oh I forgot to mention not ONE
of those (well the falcon) had auto-trans
Automatic transmissions are the devil! lol

DFisherman
12/15/04, 03:10pm
No! DF Dood!!!

Can ya say 'Ferd' Man?

Not really. It always comes out as "Fix Or Repair Daily".

Cheers,

- DFisherman

P.S.: On a side note, I have an uncle who retired just a few years ago that worked 37 years at the Ford St-Thomas plant in Ontario, making models like the Lincoln Continental.

Winky
12/15/04, 03:21pm
"First On Race Day"

Dang that's a long time to be makin' cars huh?

How does he pass his time now?

DFisherman
12/15/04, 03:25pm
"First On Race Day"

Dang that's a long time to be makin' cars huh?

How does he pass his time now?

Fixes his truck (a Ford).

Cheers,

- DFisherman

Gato_Solo
12/16/04, 09:12am
Q: Why did all Yugo's have heated rear glass?


























A: So your hands didn't get cold while you were pushing them. :lol2:

chcr
12/16/04, 12:16pm
Monster muscle cars in the 60's
Pintos and Vegas post Arab oil embargo
Yuppie Beemers then Soccer Mom Mini-Van's

SUV's

what's next your Dad's Oldsmobile?

They already stopped making Oldsmobiles.

Gato_Solo
12/16/04, 12:32pm
Hemi-powered station wagons are next... :lol2: ...Especially gray ones. :D

HomeLAN
12/16/04, 02:15pm
:p