View Full Version : Is a BB Gun a good idea to buy for a 10 year olds birthday?
staffrodore
12/03/04, 01:36am
It comes with this warning.................
ATTENTION!
Soft airguns have been reclassified to airguns by the police.
Therefore persons must be 18 years of age & over to purchase or have a current firearms licence if under 18.
persons under 18, adult supervision is recommended when shooting.
We must stress that you can be charged with a firearms offence if you should present or use your soft airgun in a public place
I don't know what that law means...but in general think it depends on the 10 year old, what he/she'd use it for, and whether the parents would lock it in the closet after the party.
HeXp£Øi±
12/03/04, 01:54am
Well it cost my folks $2000 to get the bb out of my hand when i was 12 so you tell me if it's a good idea.
it woulda been free here :lloyd:
My oldest is 10, and he wanted to buy one with his money last week....NOT!!!!
I could see me rushing him, his brother, myself, etc. to the hospital at the time he asked.
So, my opinion "NO"!!!!!!!!!
(but there are some parents that would if thats what the child grew up around all his life)
if it is not legal untill age 18, i say no. why open that can of worms?
Gato_Solo
12/03/04, 09:16am
...What she said. :lloyd:
SouthernN'Proud
12/03/04, 09:50am
Legality aside, it depends on the 10 year old. I've known 8 year olds I'd trust with a shotgun, and 40 year olds I don't trust with a rubber band.
Gato_Solo
12/03/04, 09:53am
Legality aside, it depends on the 10 year old. I've known 8 year olds I'd trust with a shotgun, and 40 year olds I don't trust with a rubber band.
I'll give you that, SNP, but, with you being involved in law enforcement, I just decided to err on the side of caution... :devious:
My oldest is 10, and he wanted to buy one with his money last week....NOT!!!!
I could see me rushing him, his brother, myself, etc. to the hospital at the time he asked.
So, my opinion "NO"!!!!!!!!!
(but there are some parents that would if thats what the child grew up around all his life)
But Mo-o-om, I only shot him a little bit. ;)
MrBishop
12/03/04, 10:04am
It depends on where you keep the gun and allow him to use it. A nice summer cabin might be a good place. That way...there are less house-cats in the way :D
Seriously though, if it's illegal to use one in public spaces..or even brandish one... the only place that the kid could use it would be either in your house, in your back yard or in a shooting range. I don't recommend the first 2 choices..and the third...well that's up to the parent, eh?
ClaireBear
12/03/04, 10:06am
Laws are to protect others and ourselves... often from ourselves and this is so much more true of children...
Like Bish says the kid wouldn't be able to use the gun anywhere practicle... so whats the point?
Yeah at ten my Kid had access to multiple semi-auto pistols and two assault rifles he never had a BB gun. Of course he was three when he fired his fire gun. (.22 pistol)
If parents can’t\won’t teach their kids about firearms then they should try to keep them away from all firearms including BB guns as they are firearms too. Course I’m the guy that gave him a butcher knife at age three and let him nick himself to learn about that.
You parents better keep your kids away from sharp knives too. And that time he picked up the wrong end of a HOT soldering iron lol Come to think of it you better take your kids and hide them under the bed and not let them experience anything, I’ve seen what happens to kids like that when they get out on their own Heh
My brother was younger than 10 when he had a bb gun. Granted, it was one my dad had when he was little so it wasn't as powerful as all the fancy ones now a days...Anyway, it was kept at our trailer and we could only play with it when one of my parents was around and we could only shoot at targets my dad had made for us and nailed to trees. This of course was all after we got a nice long lesson in how you always stand BEHIND the person who is shooting and if anyone is walking nearby do NOT shoot etc.
No, you'll shoot your eye out.
I love A Christmas Story, just watched it last night...
Professur
12/03/04, 11:31am
Hell yes. With a trigger lock that the parents keep the key to. I think every child should be allowed to learn to handle something dangerous at about that age. It teaches them to respect it. And, more importantly, they can learn to not have accidents with it.
yep yep
and it was free when we went out to the base hospital to get a BB out of the tip of my index finger when I was a kid. Now the day that I was engaging a sniper in a fortified position during a BB gun war and that lil' bastard shot right down my sights (you know like in private Ryan?) and the BB hit the first joint of my thumb you know like when you aim a gun and put your cheek right down so that knuckle is less than an inch from your aiming eye? "He nearly put my eye out lol"
have a current firearms licence if under 18.
What kind in insane asylum do you inhabit? By 10, I owned a 410 & went hunting. Had 2 or 3 airrifles...the first one sucked (Daisy). The rest killed small critters.
Since the law says NO, then no. Change the ridiculous law & then hell yes.
ClaireBear
12/03/04, 12:14pm
Hell yes. With a trigger lock that the parents keep the key to. I think every child should be allowed to learn to handle something dangerous at about that age. It teaches them to respect it. And, more importantly, they can learn to not have accidents with it.
Yes thats true at ten children are quite capable of taking on the idea of respect and taking care with a dangerous item...
But personally I'd rather it wasn't a gun... infact I can't quite think of a time when I was presented with anything "dangerous" at all... and I wouldn't say I was an over cautious person... possibly the exact opposite in certain situations. :shrug:
CB my condolences regarding your upbringing.
There are dangers in the world and as parents our job is to teach our offspring to 'deal'.
While me Kid can outshoot me now.
He wasn't allowed to ride a bike.
The road in front of our house is straight and wide although it is a residential area people fly down it at over 70 kph. He only recently learned to ride one.
ClaireBear
12/03/04, 12:56pm
CB my condolences regarding your upbringing.
Why?
Surely the fact I can not think of a time when I was presented with a dangerous item or situation must mean one of two things...
I was trusted enough to take on such situations without a constant barrage of "be careful" "Don't get/do/go..." therefore such times do not stick in my mind.
I never had exposure to any danger at all
The latter I find very very unlikely as I am in no way "unstreetsmart" and I'm very prone to risk taking!
infact I can't quite think of a time when I was presented with anything "dangerous" at all...
Well, there ya go
so here is my conundrum....if you say to your kid "sure, i'll by you this airgun even though the law says you are too young", what kind of lesson is that to your kid. next it'll be that R rated movie that you sneak him into, then he'll want cigarettes, next a beer? if it's against the law then no. just no.
I was about 7 when I first tried a beer, and about 8-9 when I tried brandy (almost none of it in the drink thou) :shrug:
I was about 7 when I first tried a beer, and about 8-9 when I tried brandy (almost none of it in the drink thou) :shrug:
tried, sure. i have a picture of me downing a milwaukees best at 2 but i mean where do you draw the line? illegal gun, illegal movie, illegal smokes, then illegal booze. if you buy the one how can you justify not buying the other?
so here is my conundrum....if you say to your kid "sure, i'll by you this airgun even though the law says you are too young", what kind of lesson is that to your kid. next it'll be that R rated movie that you sneak him into, then he'll want cigarettes, next a beer? if it's against the law then no. just no.
That's a good point, although IMO this law oughtta be changed. 10's old enough for a single pump airgun. The ones that go to 10 or 20 pumps and have the power of a .22 LR are a different story.
In addition, if you give your kid any kind of gun and don't give him proper safety and handling training, you need to be flogged. Like any tool, there's a right and a wrong way to use these. It's YOUR job, as the parent, to teach your kid the difference. If you fail in that and endanger the rest of us, it ought to be your ass on the line for it.
All that being said, illegal is illegal. Not until the law is corrected.
All that being said, illegal is illegal. Not until the law is corrected.
Yeah ya move to AZ where it's still legal to wear your six-gun on your hip!
TexasRaceLady
12/03/04, 05:28pm
My brother and I both were taught safe firearm handling by the time we were 10.
However, and this is a BIG however, we never were allowed to fire a weapon -- BB guns included, unless we were out at my grandfather's farm. We went to the back 50 acres, and only there could we shoot.
If there is nowhere safe to shoot, don't buy one.
Professur
12/03/04, 05:37pm
My brother and I both were taught safe firearm handling by the time we were 10.
However, and this is a BIG however, we never were allowed to fire a weapon -- BB guns included, unless we were out at my grandfather's farm. We went to the back 50 acres, and only there could we shoot.
If there is nowhere safe to shoot, don't buy one.
And the weapons were probably kept, if not at the farm, then out of your control. Right?
Yeah ya move to AZ where it's still legal to wear your six-gun on your hip!
Fuckin' A brother. I miss that. Here, it's illegal to have a weapon off of your property without an issued permit. Guess who issues the permits? It sure ain't Wal-Mart.
Permit sure-mitt!
The 'right to keep and bear arms' has been so infringed that people on this board are propounding the wunderfulness of a law that prohibits fricken BB guns WTF?!?
People, listen to yourselves!!!
TexasRaceLady
12/03/04, 06:04pm
And the weapons were probably kept, if not at the farm, then out of your control. Right?
Absolutely, Professur.
And woe be unto us if we even dared to think about getting them down. LOL
TexasRaceLady
12/03/04, 06:06pm
Permit sure-mitt!
The 'right to keep and bear arms' has been so infringed that people on this board are propounding the wunderfulness of a law that prohibits fricken BB guns WTF?!?
People, listen to yourselves!!!
Winky, I'm not against BB guns. I had my back patio doors broken several times by children who had no business shooting in a neighborhood.
I'm preaching responsibility.
i think it's a dumb law too...but a law none the less.
Professur
12/03/04, 06:11pm
Absolutely, Professur.
And woe be unto us if we even dared to think about getting them down. LOL
And there, ladies and gentlemen, is the answer. Giving a child a weapon does not mean letting him keep it in his room. It's his, yes. Under the parent's control. If he only has it when his parents are supervising, it's not a danger .... is it? Not to mention the benefit that .... HE'D BE SPENDING TIME WITH A PARENT NOT WATCHING TV, OR PLAYING NINTENDO
Unfortunately, everyone lined up behind the idea that he'd be roaming the neighbourhood with it, unsupervised. Because his parents would be enraptured with Days of someone else's freaking made up Lives. (Not at you Staff)
And woe be unto us if we even dared to think about getting them down.
That's what I'm talking about!
Tonks, that is part of what is wrong these days.
They make laws that no one on their right mind would pay attention too. Respect for the law? Bah
Professur
12/03/04, 06:13pm
That's what I'm talking about!
Tonks, that is part of what is wrong these days.
They make laws that no one on their right mind would pay attention too. Respect for the law? Bah
Minor restatement, if I may.
They make laws that shouldn't be needed if parents did their fucking jobs.
Parents don't do their jobs because they make laws.
That's what I'm talking about!
Tonks, that is part of what is wrong these days.
They make laws that no one on their right mind would pay attention too. Respect for the law? Bah
i agree with the stupidity of the law. it should be fought through the proper channels but thumbing your nose at the law is not something to instill in your children. i thumb my nose at the law on a daily basis (pot) but i sure as shooting don't involve and will never involve my children in my doing so. it's just not a good ethic to teach your kids.
Should I laugh
or take you seriously?
Um nvr mnd
i don't really care which option you choose.
Not really sure what a BB gun is, but from what I've read here, I think that might be what my older brother had when I was a kid. I tried it once. Busted the windshield of a car.
A toy car.
Don't know what the laws for those are like over here now.
When I was little, I had access to anything in my dad's garage, including the knives. I loved to carve wood, and the scars om my hands indicate that I learned the hard way why it was a good idea to carve away from the body.. :lloyd:
They make laws that no one on their right mind would pay attention too. Respect for the law? BahSome laws, I choose to see as guidelines, when it comes to what takes place in my own home.
That being said, I can't actually think of any laws that I am currently breaking..
Edit: Regarding the above statement, I just came to think of the music currently playing on my computer.. *cough*
staffrodore
12/06/04, 03:58am
To answer this thread and questions, yes the gun will only be used by him on my friends farm where he can cause no injury to himself, livestock (well maybe the odd bird here and there, as I did while his age), will only be used under strict supervision and will be kept under lock and key when not in use. I too think our laws regarding firearms and licence really need to be seen to, call it another case of narrow minded politicians thinking they know what is right and wrong for the average citizen. As I stated I was firing guns when I was his age, never shot anyone, just good clean harmless fun and if fun is illegal then I'll say it's mine.
BTW the kid isnt mine, he's my best friends son and this idea meets his approval.
No, you'll shoot your eye out.
I love A Christmas Story, just watched it last night...
That movie is too awesome!!!! the tongue stuck to the flagpole-and the snowsuit, OMG laugh my head off.
Chevy Chase's christmas (think thats it), the squirrel on his back!!!! :lol2: LOVE IT!!!
PS. knew this kid that wanted to see how it felt to get shot by a bb gun (in the ass) up close, :lol2: :alienhuh: , threw up from the pain....
me and my buddies used to shoot my sister in the ass with our BB guns, great fun
and no I'm not taking any responsibility for how screwed up she is today heh heh
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