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Bush May Endorse Iraq Intelligence Review
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By KATHERINE PFLEGER, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - The White House is considering endorsing the creation of an independent commission that would investigate whether the United States used faulty intelligence information when it decided to go to war in Iraq, government sources said Saturday.
They said a statement of support from the White House could come this week.
Until now, President Bush has reacted coolly toward the idea of a new commission, refusing to endorse it publicly. But his administration is under mounting election-year pressure to agree to an independent inquiry about Iraq's alleged arsenal of banned destruction.
Can you say scapegoat? I knew that you could.
they've known since May (http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1136351,00.html)
so they've had a lot of time to figure out who the best one would be :retard:
'It was known in May,' Albright said last week, 'that no one was going to find large stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons. The only people who did not know that fact was the public
Crosss examination:
Madame Albright, did you not believe that saddam had weapons? In fact did you yourself not say
"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998
Since there were no inspections during the rest of your term as Secretary of State & saddam never released information to the UN Security Council providing proof of destruction, wouldn't it be safe & logical to believe he still had what you thought he had?
And for the record Mizz Albright, you are not part of the governement any longer. Why are you still talking to the press as though you actually know anything?
chcr, why must an investigation into our intelligence community be equated with a scapegoat? Is it not obvious that there is a problem? The problem coming, of course, from our assumptions, without having actually seen the current & past intel information, which may yet prove correct.
pssssssst Gonz :PThe claim is confirmed by other sources, as well as figures like David Albright, a former UN nuclear inspector with close contacts in both the world of weapons inspection and intelligence.
Oh, like I'll listen to a UN dork anymore than a US wench ;)
of course, I'll be more than happy to throw his works around too;
Gaps in Iraq's Nuclear Story. The most significant gap in the action team's knowledge concerns how close Iraq was to building a nuclear weapon.
Washington Intstitute Policy Watch (http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/watch/Policywatch/policywatch1998/301.htm)
You may also wish to look at the table (http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/scud_info/scud_info_refs/n41en172/iraq.htm) presented before the Center for Non-Proliferation STudies. His is the first one on Nuclear weapons.
:p
And for the record Mizz Albright, you are not part of the governement any longer. Why are you still talking to the press as though you actually know anything?
We'll just call that a Gonaziism :tardbang:
A.B.Normal
2/01/04, 04:32pm
We'll just call that a Gonaziism :tardbang:
or verbal Gonzorhea :D
http://207.44.246.196/567/198/upload/p3.gif
oops...:tardbang:
or verbal Gonzorhea :D
A socially acceptable non-disease :headbang:
You know, almost daily they come closer and closer to saying "Fuck it, we lied" and people still think them honorable men. :shrug:
You know, almost daily they come closer and closer to saying "Fuck it, we lied" and people still think them honorable men. :shrug:
the authority in this country need to be run down and trampled by a herd of stampeding elephants being attacked by hornets and an array of other stinging insectsand be tied to a tree surrounded by a circle of llamas with a habit of spitting on people, and slapped merclessly across the face with large bass or freshwater fish of another sort.
You know, almost daily they come closer and closer to saying "Fuck it, we lied" and people still think them honorable men. :shrug:
Show me one piece of verifiable evidence that they intentiionally misled us & I'll lead the charge. Until then, I believe Bush was acting with the best interest of the USA in mind.
You know, I'm reasonably certain you're reading at least some of the same stuff I do. None of the reasons originally cited for the war have materialized. I just don't understand how you can blithely ignore the obvious, but more power to you. Maybe head in the sand obtuseness is the only way to deal with politics in America anymore. I'm just not going to argue with you about it anymore.
A.B.Normal
2/01/04, 08:51pm
Shouldn't it be the other way around ? They(Bush Administration) should have to produce Verifiable proof for the Invasion ,rather than "we believed" or "we heard" ,they obvoiously didn't have verifiable proof before going in because they haven't produced any.
Before the War any evidence such as Satellite photos of a guarded enclosure was rebuked as normal activity ,instead of defending their evidence they simply pulled something else out of their ass(a meeting in Nigeria as an example) ,only to have it discounted too.Their continuence to produce evidence they weren't willing/able to defend says volumes ,unless you have your head in the sand.IMHO
It appears that you 2, among others, are just bound & determined to ignore what we did. WHat was that you ask....we removed a genocidal government. We ended 25 years of oppression & tyranny. We unearthed over 300,000 murdered civilians. We have made an entire region of the world safer. We are in the process of democratizing an Arab country against all odds.
Screw it, I'm tired of teh fight.
The world is safer today than 1 year ago & people like you can sit around & complain, thanks to our actions.
Show me one piece of verifiable evidence that they intentiionally misled us & I'll lead the charge. Until then, I believe Bush was acting with the best interest of the USA in mind.
Are you totally discarding Powell's appearence before the UN in which he portrayed an Iranian's 10 year old term paper as current intelligence and proof that Iraq had these weapons? Give it up Gonz...BUSH IS A MURDEROUS LIAR...You don't get to say "oops...our bad.." when this many lives have been sacrificed. :hmm:
The world is safer today than 1 year ago & people like you can sit around & complain, thanks to our actions.
:cuss: And just WHAT actions did you take other than endorse Bush's lies and cheerlead while other people died?
OUR = THE UNITED STATES MILITARY...
I really wish you'd let the hatred go so you could see.
I'm fairly certain you enjoy a good blowjob. So why the fuck do you hate Clinton?
Because he came onto national television, pointeds his ugly stubbly hillbilly hand at me & said "I did not have sex with that woman. Ms Lewinski". I, at that poont said, I question it but I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Within days we had undeniable proof he was a goddamned liar.
He lied before a Grand Jury as a sworn witness AND as a sworn sitting President. He directly lied to the American people. He lied about lying. He got impeached only to have politics sve his fat lying ass.
I do not care about the blowjob. I care he lied.
Once again, Show me one piece of verifiable evidence that they intentiionally misled us
And I'll again point you to Powell's statements before the UN...:shrug:
A.B.Normal
2/01/04, 09:34pm
Show me one piece of verifiable evidence that they intentiionally misled us
Before the War any evidence such as Satellite photos of a guarded enclosure was rebuked as normal activity ,instead of defending their evidence they simply pulled something else out of their ass(a meeting in Nigeria as an example) ,only to have it discounted too.Their continuence to produce evidence they weren't willing/able to defend says volumes ,unless you have your head in the sand.IMHO
Are you totally discarding Powell's appearence before the UN in which he portrayed an Iranian's 10 year old term paper as current intelligence and proof that Iraq had these weapons?
You can't recognize these as "intentional" attempts to mislead:confused:
rebuked by who? The oil soaked French?
If the meeting is the one I thin it is, that was common knowledge. Again, discounted by whom? The oil soaked Russians?
What would you like them to defend the intel with? Current, living sources? Once that info is out, the source is dead (figuratively if not literally).
We had this "term paper" thing worked out a year ago.
We had this "term paper" thing worked out a year ago.
SCUSE ME?! YOU had it worked out...As a perfectly acceptable lie from your fuhrer....:hmm:
Come. follow me. This (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/01/international/middleeast/01WEAP.html?ex=1076216400&en=e52da1da7d9d1f7e&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE)story may prove interesting, even with the NYTimes bent on it. I just started reading.
A.B.Normal
2/01/04, 10:08pm
Claim:
Secretary of State Colin Powell released satellite shots of a weapons factory at Taji purporting to show that the site had been cleaned up before the arrival of UN inspectors.
Reality
The chief UN weapons inspector, Hans Blix, said the photos could show routine movement at the plant.
I keep telling ya, I've done enough reading on it...He lied. Hes a murderer. But you like him that way...His satellite imagery was lies. His ground intel was lies. and on and on and on...I choose to not even listen anymore....
"There are still millions of documents that have yet to be examined, thousands of scientists and former government officials yet to be thoroughly debriefed, and countless possible hiding sites which have yet to be searched," the senior intelligence official said. "We find it puzzling that those who say the intelligence community reached its conclusions on limited evidence are reaching opposite conclusions on even less."
YOU were ready to carpet bomb protesters ASKING for those answers. And NOW you want to talk about it? Look at how flimsy the evidence was for you to rush people to their death...Don't try pulling that shit now. YOU are the ones who accepted limited information and CONCLUDED people should die.
Over 12 years of playing hide & seek, you bet your ass I was ready. I was ready 10 years ago. After 9/11 I wanted to nuke the entire region.
Today-nothing has changed. Nothing except I see light at the end of the tunnel & there's no reason to think it's a train.
How many were you willing to allow to die, unarmed, before it was okay?
by the way
He has reported finding evidence that Iraqi scientists were working until the eve of the invasion to produce weapons using the poison ricin and that Mr. Hussein maintained a "clandestine network of laboratories" that could conceivably have been used to produce lethal biological agents.
freako104
2/01/04, 10:32pm
Show me one piece of verifiable evidence that they intentiionally misled us & I'll lead the charge. Until then, I believe Bush was acting with the best interest of the USA in mind.
I thought quite a bit of it was mentioned in the news as well as on here? he acted in his own intrest. that was established with the oil thing wasnt it? altruism is dead i guess. its all about power money and other things
An interim report by Dr. Kay last October said that Iraq had continued "weapons of mass destruction program-related activities." President Bush used the same language in his State of the Union address earlier this month. Dr. Kay has also said that while maintaining an infrastructure to produce biological weapons, Iraq "didn't have large-scale production under way."
Pre-emptive was a Bush keyword after 9/11.
This would facilitate preemption
In the interview last October, the senior intelligence officials described the human intelligence as providing "brand new information" beginning in 2000 about mobile laboratories. They said an analysis based on the descriptions provided by the human sources suggested that the laboratories were capable of producing biological weapons at a high rate. At least one of the human sources had reported that Iraq "had actually done such production."
"We took that seriously as a biological weapon capability that exists," one of the intelligence officials said. "In our view what that means was we thought they had probably produced agent and weapons and had them sitting around. Did we know that? No."
Still, the official said: "What we had was, we thought, a rather competent judgment that they in fact had taken the program on and produced weapons and agent."
National interest & national security
freako104
2/01/04, 10:39pm
pre-emptive is the equivelent of he was going to hit me so i hit him back first.
Over 12 years of playing hide & seek, you bet your ass I was ready. I was ready 10 years ago. After 9/11 I wanted to nuke the entire region.
Today-nothing has changed. Nothing except I see light at the end of the tunnel & there's no reason to think it's a train.
How many were you willing to allow to die, unarmed, before it was okay?
by the way
If you're going to play the 9/11 card, then why the fuck weren't you screaming for us to attack the guilty country like I was? Don't try to cheerlead your way out of this by draping yourself in the flag again. IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11.
Thats the BIGGEST reason I'm pissed about all of this. Thats the biggest part of the lie. Saudi Arabia (read: Bush's buddies) Got a free ride for 9/11 because of this diversion....The whole fucking thing played right into Bush and his friends. And they desecrated the honor of the victims of 9/11 by using their name to pull it off. :cuss:
A.B.Normal
2/01/04, 10:45pm
Several inspections have taken place ... in relation to mobile production facilities," Dr Blix told the meeting, which was being followed by a debate among foreign ministers and ambassadors. "No evidence of proscribed activities has so far been found."
This was prior to the US going in ,so the labs were disproved already.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/08/1046826546693.html
EVERYBODY LOOK!
I will now admit that after 12 years & countless hours reading & researching, I have found something that implies the UN did good.
Indeed, Dr. Kay and the Senate Intelligence Committee have concluded that while Mr. Hussein had ordered spending at scattered nuclear research operations in recent years, the sanctions had taken an enormous toll. Inspectors found a program that existed mostly on paper, save for a few blueprints and centrifuge parts that Mahdi Obeidi, an Iraqi scientist, dug up from his garden. Dr. Obeidi, who has been moved to the United States, reported that the parts had been buried for 12 years and that sanctions had made it virtually impossible to breathe new life into a once sophisticated program.
freako104
2/01/04, 10:46pm
Squiggy this may seem like a rude question but please do not take it as such.
do you think 9/11 was the best thing to happen to Bush? I ask because your last statement made me think of an older thread where someone had that as a discussion point.
and many right wingers are trying to coincile the 9/11- Iraq rather than your 9/11- SA connection
Gonz, I had told you before the war that the sanctions were working and Sadam wouldn't be able to last much longer. But you insisted on a fireworks & death show to satisfy you... :disgust2:
If you're going to play the 9/11 card, then why the fuck weren't you screaming for us to attack the guilty country like I was? Don't try to cheerlead your way out of this by draping yourself in the flag again. IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11.
Thats the BIGGEST reason I'm pissed about all of this. Thats the biggest part of the lie. Saudi Arabia (read: Bush's buddies) Got a free ride for 9/11 because of this diversion....The whole fucking thing played right into Bush and his friends. And they desecrated the honor of the victims of 9/11 by using their name to pull it off. :cuss:
I can see a much larger problem if we take on SA directly. I've been pissing & moaning about that also. 9/11 is bigger than SA or Afghanistan or Iraq. It is an entire region. why do you refuse to see that?
interesting. 2 of the axis of evil powers & one lone wolf. 3/3 have made strides to "get along with" the US. Maybe teh policy is working already.
Dr. Kay told the Senate Armed Services Committee that the program he found was far less advanced than parallel projects in Iran, Libya and North Korea — where United States intelligence underestimated progress.
freako104
2/01/04, 10:56pm
what is the problem you foresee if we go after SA? their wmds? our oil? trade wiht them? the Muslims hating us more?
Gonz, I realized long ago that 9/11 was OUR fault for allowing our government to act as thugs for the oil industry. Iran is only our enemy because the Iranian people got tired of us supporting the oppression of the Shah. You see them as evil. They just wanted it to stop. But the government is doing the bidding of the oil industry and telling you that they are evil and YOU are buying it. Just stay covered up with your flag anfd don't bother looking at the facts...it serves you well...You make a big stink about the illegality of France's deals with Saddam but excuse our selling arms to Iran when it was listed as a hostile nation and trade restrictions were imposed. You are the typical "America Right or Wrong" that sent so many Americans to their death in Viet Nam...
freako104
2/01/04, 11:02pm
Squig your confusing me. you said SA was our enemy but now Iran is our only enemy.
Intersting that ou bring 'Nam up. It has just occured to me (sorry, I don't have a great imagination) that much of your anger, I'd bet, stems from your service in the Marines.
Now, I don't know if you were a cook in Jersey City, a grunt in Da Nang or a general in Ho Chi Min City...and it doesn't really matter...what I'm getting at is;
Whether it's 1965 or 2004, do you think the mess of/in Vietnam worked?
Are you still pissed at Johnson for letting the pols take over a soldiers job?
one more thing
I realized long ago that 9/11 was OUR fault [edited by Gonz for being unnecerssary]
I can't believe you said that.
freako104
2/01/04, 11:12pm
I think he meant that they had a reason to attack us and we had it coming.
Intersting that ou bring 'Nam up. It has just occured to me (sorry, I don't have a great imagination) that much of your anger, I'd bet, stems from your service in the Marines.
Now, I don't know if you were a cook in Jersey City, a grunt in Da Nang or a general in Ho Chi Min City...and it doesn't really matter...what I'm getting at is;
Whether it's 1965 or 2004, do you think the mess of/in Vietnam worked?
No. I don't think it worked. The government was only interested in posturing for Russia. They knowingly lied about the body counts that kept America beliving there would soon be a successful conclusion to our efforts. And they fed the death and distruction for undisclosed reasons.
Are you still pissed at Johnson for letting the pols take over a soldiers job?
Johnson was an ass. But I've no idea what your asking. :confuse3:
one more thing
Fuck you
See...You can't even admit things after the truth is out....:shrug: Do you even know why we supported Osama in Afgahnistan?
freako104
2/01/04, 11:22pm
there wasnt a good reason but they had a reason. but there is never justification for killing an innocent let alone 3000
THERE IS NEVER REASON!
Bloody unfortunate accident then.........wasn't it? :rolleyes:
No. I'd say bloody fucking murderers
freako, as compassionately as Gonz speaks of the dead Iraqis who were victims of his favorite 'evil-doer', have you ever heard him mention the victims of the Shah ...whose families have EVERY right to hold US responsible.
We have, for decades, allowed big corporations to decide who is and who is not our enemy.
No. I'd say bloody fucking murderers
Murderers without a reason? Ah......I see your going back to the original point of the thread :)
A.B.Normal
2/01/04, 11:41pm
What went wrong (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4123507/)
No. I don't think it worked. The government was only interested in posturing for Russia. They knowingly lied about the body counts that kept America beliving there would soon be a successful conclusion to our efforts. And they fed the death and distruction for undisclosed reasons.
Johnson was an ass. But I've no idea what your asking. :confuse3:
See...You can't even admit things after the truth is out....:shrug: Do you even know why we supported Osama in Afgahnistan?
The Vietnam thing, as screwed up & misused as it was, in the long run, did work. We shouldn't have been there in the first place, that was Frances to lose, not ours. However, the Soviet Union put a stop to most of their expansion after seeing we weren't going to sit idly by as it happened. 30 years later, the US still stands & the Soviets era is done.
I asked about Johnson because he is the President that decided to experiment with American GI's, not George Bush. Dubya's troops believe in him, unlike Lyndons.
I am blown away that you would even say that in public. Just flabbergasted. I've been calling the wrong people commie it seems.
Let's see, why did the American government supply the Afghan rebels with weapons? Why did the CIA hand train a few Arabs to lead the rebellion? Maybe because it was, like Vietnam, a place the Soviet Union wanted to call thier own. It provided an area large enough & close enough to Asia to help a down on its luck communist empire expand with room for further movement. binLaden wanted to keep the imperialists out. The US wanted to keep teh imperialists out. The Afghani's were too busy trying to find food to care & those that did care wanted to keep the imperiamlists out. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Bad advice that has worked for eons.
A.B.Normal
2/01/04, 11:49pm
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Bad advice that has worked for eons.
With friends like Bin Laden who needs enemies :rolleyes:
Wrong...We were hoping to keep a major OIL PIPELINE out of Russian control. Big business strikes again...:shrug: surprise, surprise....
Jesus H Christ Squiggy. I've been so blind. How could I miss it? All our troubles come from those damned corporations. They rule the country. You could never get off your ass & run for government because they might shoot you dead, those evil vile monsters. How could I have been so blind? :rolleyes:
BTW-I was about 15 when Carter began fucking up the middle east & allowed the religious nuts to take hold. Had Bush been in charge, they wouldn't, today, be saying, "that Shah, ya know, he wasn't so bad after all"
Oz-tell that to the 300,000 victims of his regime.
Um ....gonz...The oil cartel was formed prior to Carter. I realize he was the only democrat for you to assign the blame to back then....but, as usual, you're WRONG!
Oz-tell that to the 300,000 victims of his regime.
I don't have to Gonz.......there are american flags all over the country reminding the people why there was a regime.
Vietnam, watergate, the oil embargo/Iran becoming a radical muslim nation, the collapse of the Berlin wall.
Johnson, Nixon(ford), Carter, Reagan,
Yep-you guys do so much better at stabilizing the world.
I don't have to Gonz.......there are american flags all over the country reminding the people why there was a regime.
ugh, those are telling the Iraqis ther eis no longer a murderer in charge.
the collapse of the Berlin wall
This was a bad thing?
If you're going to lead off with viet nam, You should throw Eisenhower into the fray...:rolleyes:
ugh, those are telling the Iraqis ther eis no longer a murderer in charge.
Strange..........plenty of our soldier boys seem to be gettin' murdered on a regular basis :shrug: But at least we can now relax knowing that the threat to the same soldiers on their homeland is now contained :roilleyes:
you do realise that we (the people of voting age today) are gonna go down in history as the most gullible people since Adof Hitler stood on a pedestal at Nuremburg and said "People of Germany, dontch know we are the master race?" ......... dontcha?
freako104
2/02/04, 12:13am
freako, as compassionately as Gonz speaks of the dead Iraqis who were victims of his favorite 'evil-doer', have you ever heard him mention the victims of the Shah ...whose families have EVERY right to hold US responsible.
We have, for decades, allowed big corporations to decide who is and who is not our enemy.
I never have no. In fact Squiggs I was not aware of the victims of the Shah.
I never have no. In fact Squiggs I was not aware of the victims of the Shah.
Of course you were never made aware of it, freako. He let our oil companies have their way..... so we protected him from us...:tardbang:
This was a bad thing?
Johnson escalated the problem
Nixon was a stateside thief.
Carter-among other things didn't kill the inventor of disco
Reagan called a spade a spade & the world improved.
freako104
2/02/04, 12:19am
Of course you were never made aware of it, freako. He let our oil companies have their way..... so we protected him from us...:tardbang:
which was why it wasnt in the news or taught in school?
Of course you were never made aware of it, freako. He let our oil companies have their way..... so we protected him from us...:tardbang:
:rofl2:
Are you pretending to know differently, Gonz? :confused:
Strange..........plenty of our soldier boys seem to be gettin' murdered on a regular basis :shrug: But at least we can now relax knowing that the threat to the same soldiers on their homeland is now contained :roilleyes:
you do realise that we (the people of voting age today) are gonna go down in history as the most gullible people since Adof Hitler stood on a pedestal at Nuremburg and said "People of Germany, dontch know we are the master race?" ......... dontcha?
You are looking at the short term. In 25 years you'll realize how significant & important this is to our future. We are not an imperialist nor empirical nation. Never have been, never will be.
freako104
2/02/04, 12:24am
that is because we dont have an empire? our bases in other countries is that for our benefit or theirs or is it mutual?
Those bases were placed there to protect them. We were overseas & safe (no longer). Today, it's mutual. If we pulled all our troops out of peaceful nations, half the worlds economy would sway on it's foundation (possibly collapsing)
freako104
2/02/04, 12:36am
then we need to keep them there. I had always wondered why we had bases in other countries. now I know somewhat that it did help them and i see it stil help them but how is it for our protection(unless you mean the worlds economy)
It protected us by giving us a working forward base, especially against the Soviet Union and China.
Germany & Japan are no longer allowed to establish an offensive military (by Constitutional decree). We are bound to protect Japan & I'm no longer sure if we have to assist Germany or not.
freako104
2/02/04, 12:41am
I dont think we will be. I think that we are viewing them the same as France. tho now i see totally why they are there. thanks.
Gotnolegs
2/02/04, 07:17am
THERE IS NEVER REASON!
There is never any reason to murder innocent civilians.
After 9/11 I wanted to nuke the entire region
Hmmm, can you say "Double Standards"?
Reagan called a spade a spade & the world improved.
If you'd been paying attention at the time, the Reagan administration was shocked when the Soviet Union collapsed. To be fair, they did keep the economy propped up pretty well for a while, although it left George the first in a pickle.
Hey Gotnobrains...I don't have my hand on button.
Wow chcr, more evidence that our intel services need overhauling.
freako104
2/02/04, 10:37am
If you'd been paying attention at the time, the Reagan administration was shocked when the Soviet Union collapsed. To be fair, they did keep the economy propped up pretty well for a while, although it left George the first in a pickle.
I tought they were suprised but expected it too
Professur
2/02/04, 10:41am
Hey Gotnobrains...I don't have my hand on button.
Is that all you've got, Gonz? Namecalling? For shame. I haven't even read any of this thread, 'cept this last page, and you've already lost in my mind. I remind you of your position, and that personal attacks are outlawed. If you're gonna do that, at least have the decency to create an alias for it.
Wow chcr, more evidence that our intel services need overhauling.
Yeah, that must be it.
freako104
2/02/04, 11:16am
didnt Reagan also increase the national debt? that would be what left George in the hole if that was the case wouldnt it
Congress increased the debt & Ronnie signed it
Congress increased the debt & Ronnie signed it
voodoo economics (aka trickle down, aka horse and sparrow)?
freako104
2/02/04, 11:28am
so it was the congress who increased it but Reagan oked it(to put it simply)
Read Section 7 and 8 of the Constitution.
wow...this thread is...um...fun
:eek6:
freako104
2/02/04, 08:18pm
arent all our discussions fun? ;)
some, not so much :tardbang:
BeardofPants
2/02/04, 08:51pm
Can I go read smut now? *handonhip :hmm:
freako104
2/02/04, 09:45pm
can I join you :brow:
A.B.Normal
2/02/04, 09:47pm
Can I go read smut now? *handonhip :hmm:
"READ"
:lol2:
BeardofPants
2/03/04, 03:40am
One more time AB - Men are from Mars... and women are brainier. How hard is it? :alienhuh: :P
A.B.Normal
2/03/04, 05:10am
How hard is it? :alienhuh: :P
Do you really need to ask that :brow:
BeardofPants
2/03/04, 05:41am
Guess I left myself open to that. :devious:
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